FreeMason Francis: Believe In a New Humanity & Islam Not Violent
Here is the latest from Antipope Freemason Francis. Get out of the Conciliar Church!
"Pope" to Young on Poland Trip: Believe 'In a New Humanity'
The New humanity is the New World Order also known as the new Luciferian Age...
Francis told young people who flocked by the hundreds of thousands to his words Sunday that they need to "believe in a new humanity" stronger than evil, and cautioned against concluding that one religion is more violent than others.
ABC reports....
Organizers of the Catholic jamboree known as World Youth Day estimated 1.5 million youths attended his Mass at a meadow near Krakow, many of them having camped out in sleeping bags from a vigil service of prayer, singing and dance performances the previous evening.
The jamboree, meant to infuse young Catholics with fresh passion for
their religion, was the main reason Francis came to Poland on a
five-trip, which also took him to the former Nazi Auschwitz death camp,
where he prayed in silence and reflected on what he called "so much
cruelty," and to a church in Krakow, where he prayed that God protect
the world from the "devastating wave" of terrorism.
Extremist violence was on his mind when he set out last week, the day
after extremists rushed into a church in the French countryside and
murdered the elderly priest there, slitting his throat, as he was
celebrating Mass.
Flying back to Rome Sunday night from Krakow, he was asked by reporters why he has never used the word "Islam" when denouncing terrorist attacks.
Francis said he thinks "it's not right to identify Islam with violence."
He added that every religion has its "little group of fundamentalists.'"
He said that if he speaks of violent Islam, he'd have to speak of
violent Catholicism, since Catholics kill, too.
Referring to Isis, also known as Islamic State group, Francis said it
"presents itself with its violent identity card, but it's not Islam.'"
Security was very tight throughout the pope's five-day visit, but he
encountered huge crowds day after day without incident and arrived back
in Rome on Sunday evening.
The pope used his several encounters with the young pilgrims — from
mega-gatherings to a private lunch with only a dozen people from five
continents — to encourage a new generation to work for peace,
reconciliation and justice.(same as Maitreya what a surprise!)
God, said Francis in his final homily of the pilgrimage, "demands of us
real courage, the courage to be more powerful than evil, by loving
everyone, even our enemies."
"People may judge you to be dreamers, because you believe in a new
humanity, one that rejects hatred between peoples, one that refuses to
see borders as barriers and can cherish its own traditions without being
self-centered or small-minded," Francis told his flock.
Earlier in his pilgrimage, Francis had expressed dismay that many people
and places aren't welcoming enough to refugees or those fleeing poverty
in their homelands.
After more than 1 million people arrived on Europe's southern shores
last year, some nations on the continent, notably in central and eastern
Europe, hastily built fences to keep the refugees out. Poland has been
among the EU countries that have refused to take in many Muslim
refugees, saying it has already welcomed hundreds of thousands of
Ukrainian immigrants.
Attending Francis' closing Mass on Sunday were some of Poland's top
leaders, including President Andrzej Duda and Jaroslaw Kaczynski, head
of the conservative ruling Law and Justice party.
Since the Paris extremist attacks in early 2015, concerns have
heightened that the Vatican, and the pope in particular, could be
targeted because of his role as the most influential Christian leader.
When the pope travels, a corps of Vatican bodyguards travels with him,
running alongside his popemobile or scrutinizing crowds along the route.
At Sunday's Mass, several Polish police vans followed the pope's
open-sided popemobile as he rode through the wide flat meadow in the
middle of hundreds of thousands of pilgrims. Motorcycle police rode
close to metal barriers keeping the crowd away.
This pilgrimage marked the first time the native Argentine pope sent foot in Eastern Europe.
Flying back to Rome, he was asked by reporters what he thought about Poland and its welcome to him.
Referring to the enormous crowds he drew day after day in a country where Pope John Paul II
was born, Francis joked that "Poland was invaded, this time by young
people." He apparently was referring to Germany's 1939 invasion of
Poland that triggered World War II.
Francis sounded charmed by what he saw, including during his drive a
couple hours to the airport in rain that came down in buckets. "This
evening, with the rain coming down, along the street there were not only
young people but also little old ladies," the pope said, referring to
the crowds cheering him as he rode by.
During Mass, Francis announced the next World Youth Day will take place
in Panama in 2019. Later, the 79-year-old pope told rally volunteers he
did not know if he would be at that one.
Francis: "Authentic" Islam not violent
Pope: “It isn’t right to call Islam a terrorist faith”
In the interview on board the papal flight from Poland, Francis
speaks about repression in Turkey: "I am examining the situation.
Prudence is required, but not at the cost of truth". About his fall at
Czestochowa, he said: "I was busy gazing at the Madonna and I forgot
about the little step!"
"It isn't right to say that Islam is a terrorist faith, I don't like
talking about Islamic violence." Speaking to journalists on the return
flight from Krakow to Rome, Francis said this in response to a question
about the murder of Fr. Jacques Hamel, the elderly French priest who was
slain while he was celebrating mass.
Catholics are in shock following the barbaric murder of Fr. Hamel. You told us that all religions seek peace, yet he was killed in the name of Islam. Why do you never mention the word Islam when you speak about terrorism?
"I don't like speaking of Islamic violence because I come across violence every day when I leaf through the newspapers here in Italy: you read about someone who's killed his girlfriend or his mother-in-law and these are violent baptised Catholics. If I talk about Islamic violence should I speak about Catholic violence too? Not all Muslims are violent. It's like a fruit salad, you do find some violent people in religions. One thing is certain: there is always a small group of extremists in practically every religion. We have them too. And when extremism goes as far as to kill - you can kill with your tongue, the apostle James says so, not me, and you can kill with a sword - it is not right to identify Islam with violence. I had a long conversation with the grand imam of Al Azhar: they seek peace and understanding. The nuncio of an African country was telling me that in his country's capital there are always people queueing up to pass through the holy door and some approach the confessionals. But most go staright to the altar to pray to the Madonna and there are Muslims who want to celebrate the Jubilee. When I was in the Central African Republic I visited them and the Imam boarded the Popemobile. Peaceful co-existence is possible. Extremist groups do exist. I wonder how many young people have we as Europeans robbed of their ideals so that they turn to drugs, alcohol or they go there and enrol. Yes, we can say that so-called ISIS is an Islamic state that presents itself as violent because the ID card it shows us is how it killed Egyptians. But this is just a small group, you cannot and it is not true and not right to call Islam a terrorist faith."
Aside from prayer and dialogue, what other concrete initiative is there to counter Islamic violence?
"Terrorism is everywhere, just think of the tribal terrorism that exists in some African countries. Terrorism grows when there is no other option. Now I'm going to say something that may be risky. When you make the money god the centre of the world economy instead of man and woman, then this is a first form of terrorism. You have erased the magnificence of creation and placed money at the centre. This is a first basic form of terrorism.let's just think about that."
In your first speech at Wawel straight after your arrival in Poland, you said that this country was your starting point for getting to know central-eastern Europe. What were your impressions?
"It was a special Poland because it was invaded once again, this time by young people! I thought Krakow was beautiful, there was so much enthusiasm among the Poles. This evening, there were so many people in the streets, despite the pouring rain. Not just young people but old ladies too. I have been familiar with Polish people since my childhood days. Some Polish women came to work at the place where my father used to work. They were kind people and I encountered this same kindness again."
Our young sons and daughters were moved by your words because you spoke their language. How did you prepare, using examples that were so pertinent to their lives?
"I like talking to young people and I like listening to them. They always make me sweat because they tell me things I had not thought of or that I had only half thought about. Restless, creative young people.and this is where I get this language from. I very often have to ask the meaning of some expressions. They are our future and there needs to be a dialogue between past and future. This is why I place so much emphasis on dialogue between young people and grandparents because have our own experience to offer too: They should feel the past, history, grasp it and take it forward with the courage of the present. This is important. I don't like it when I hear people say: these youngsters are full of nonsense! We say many stupid things too. They say stupid things and they say good things, just like us, just like everyone else. We need to learn from them and vice versa. That way we grow, avoiding closed-mindedness and censorship."
Your Holiness, repression in Turkey following the coup is perhaps worse than the coup itself: members of the military, judges, diplomats, journalists. There have been more than 13,000 arrests and over 50,000 people have been sacked. It's a purge. The day before yesterday, President Erdogan told his critics to mind their own business! We would like to ask you why you haven't spoken about this yet. Do you fear this may have repercussions on the Catholic minority?
"When I had to say something Turkey didn't like but which I was certain of, I said it, and you are all aware of what the consequences were - this being an obvious reference to his words on the Armenian genocide -. But I was certain. So far I have not spoken because I am still not certain, based on the information I have been given, about what is going on there. I listen to the information I am given by the Secretariat of State and by an important political analyst or two. I am examining the situation, with the Secretariat of State and the whole affair is not yet clear. It is true that Catholics should always be protected from harm. But not at the cost of the truth. There's the virtue of prudence but in my case, you are witnesses to the fact that when I have needed to say something regarding Turkey, I have said it."
There is one question that has been on everybody's lips in recent days: the Australian police is investigating the fresh accusations made against Cardinal George Pell. This time he is being accused of abusing children. What, in your opinion, would be the right thing for the cardinal to do?
"The first news reports that came out were confused. It was news dating back 40 years ago and even the police didn't think much of it at first. Then complaints were filed and these are now in the hands of the justice system. No judgement should be made before justice speaks. If I spoke either in favour or against, it would not be right because because I would be judging first. It is true, there is doubt. And the law has a very clear principle on this: in dubbio pro reo. We have to wait for justice to take its course and desist from making a media judgement, a judgement based on gossip. We need to be attentive to the ruling that will be presented by justice. Once justice has spoken, then I will speak."
How are you after your fall in Czestochowa?
"I was busy gazing at the Madonna and I forgot about the little step! I was holding the thurible and when I felt I was falling I let myself go and this is what saved me. Had I resisted the fall, there would have been consequences. But everything was ok."
Last week there was talk of the Vatican acting as one of the negotiating parties in the Venezuelan crisis. Is this a real possibility?
"Two year ago I had a positive meeting with president Maduro. Then he asked for an audience with me last year but cancelled because he had otitis. I let some time go by and then I wrote him a letter. We talked about a potential meeting. Yes, with the conditions that are presented in such cases: at the moment - though I am not sure - the possibility of a representative of the Holy See joining the mediation group is being deliberated.
Before starting the press conference, Francis spared a thought for a RAI correspondent who died in Krakow: “As you are her colleagues, I wish to express my condolences for the death of Anna Maria Jacobini. I met her sister and other members of the family. This was a sad part of the trip.” The Pope also celebrated the director of the Vatican press office Fr. Federico Lombardi’s last day on the job, along with Mauro, a member of staff who handled baggage on papal flights. It was his last day on the job too. “I would like to thank Fr. Lombardi and Mauro as this is the last time they will be travelling with us. Fr. Lombardi has been with Vatican Radio for more than 25 years and has been on papal flights for ten years. Mauro has been in charge of baggage for 37 years. I thank both of them vey much.” After the press conference, Rome Reports journalist Javier Martinez Brocal introduced WYD 2019, which is to be celebrated in Panama, by presenting Pope Francis with a Panama hat, which he wore straight away.
Catholics are in shock following the barbaric murder of Fr. Hamel. You told us that all religions seek peace, yet he was killed in the name of Islam. Why do you never mention the word Islam when you speak about terrorism?
"I don't like speaking of Islamic violence because I come across violence every day when I leaf through the newspapers here in Italy: you read about someone who's killed his girlfriend or his mother-in-law and these are violent baptised Catholics. If I talk about Islamic violence should I speak about Catholic violence too? Not all Muslims are violent. It's like a fruit salad, you do find some violent people in religions. One thing is certain: there is always a small group of extremists in practically every religion. We have them too. And when extremism goes as far as to kill - you can kill with your tongue, the apostle James says so, not me, and you can kill with a sword - it is not right to identify Islam with violence. I had a long conversation with the grand imam of Al Azhar: they seek peace and understanding. The nuncio of an African country was telling me that in his country's capital there are always people queueing up to pass through the holy door and some approach the confessionals. But most go staright to the altar to pray to the Madonna and there are Muslims who want to celebrate the Jubilee. When I was in the Central African Republic I visited them and the Imam boarded the Popemobile. Peaceful co-existence is possible. Extremist groups do exist. I wonder how many young people have we as Europeans robbed of their ideals so that they turn to drugs, alcohol or they go there and enrol. Yes, we can say that so-called ISIS is an Islamic state that presents itself as violent because the ID card it shows us is how it killed Egyptians. But this is just a small group, you cannot and it is not true and not right to call Islam a terrorist faith."
Aside from prayer and dialogue, what other concrete initiative is there to counter Islamic violence?
"Terrorism is everywhere, just think of the tribal terrorism that exists in some African countries. Terrorism grows when there is no other option. Now I'm going to say something that may be risky. When you make the money god the centre of the world economy instead of man and woman, then this is a first form of terrorism. You have erased the magnificence of creation and placed money at the centre. This is a first basic form of terrorism.let's just think about that."
In your first speech at Wawel straight after your arrival in Poland, you said that this country was your starting point for getting to know central-eastern Europe. What were your impressions?
"It was a special Poland because it was invaded once again, this time by young people! I thought Krakow was beautiful, there was so much enthusiasm among the Poles. This evening, there were so many people in the streets, despite the pouring rain. Not just young people but old ladies too. I have been familiar with Polish people since my childhood days. Some Polish women came to work at the place where my father used to work. They were kind people and I encountered this same kindness again."
Our young sons and daughters were moved by your words because you spoke their language. How did you prepare, using examples that were so pertinent to their lives?
"I like talking to young people and I like listening to them. They always make me sweat because they tell me things I had not thought of or that I had only half thought about. Restless, creative young people.and this is where I get this language from. I very often have to ask the meaning of some expressions. They are our future and there needs to be a dialogue between past and future. This is why I place so much emphasis on dialogue between young people and grandparents because have our own experience to offer too: They should feel the past, history, grasp it and take it forward with the courage of the present. This is important. I don't like it when I hear people say: these youngsters are full of nonsense! We say many stupid things too. They say stupid things and they say good things, just like us, just like everyone else. We need to learn from them and vice versa. That way we grow, avoiding closed-mindedness and censorship."
Your Holiness, repression in Turkey following the coup is perhaps worse than the coup itself: members of the military, judges, diplomats, journalists. There have been more than 13,000 arrests and over 50,000 people have been sacked. It's a purge. The day before yesterday, President Erdogan told his critics to mind their own business! We would like to ask you why you haven't spoken about this yet. Do you fear this may have repercussions on the Catholic minority?
"When I had to say something Turkey didn't like but which I was certain of, I said it, and you are all aware of what the consequences were - this being an obvious reference to his words on the Armenian genocide -. But I was certain. So far I have not spoken because I am still not certain, based on the information I have been given, about what is going on there. I listen to the information I am given by the Secretariat of State and by an important political analyst or two. I am examining the situation, with the Secretariat of State and the whole affair is not yet clear. It is true that Catholics should always be protected from harm. But not at the cost of the truth. There's the virtue of prudence but in my case, you are witnesses to the fact that when I have needed to say something regarding Turkey, I have said it."
There is one question that has been on everybody's lips in recent days: the Australian police is investigating the fresh accusations made against Cardinal George Pell. This time he is being accused of abusing children. What, in your opinion, would be the right thing for the cardinal to do?
"The first news reports that came out were confused. It was news dating back 40 years ago and even the police didn't think much of it at first. Then complaints were filed and these are now in the hands of the justice system. No judgement should be made before justice speaks. If I spoke either in favour or against, it would not be right because because I would be judging first. It is true, there is doubt. And the law has a very clear principle on this: in dubbio pro reo. We have to wait for justice to take its course and desist from making a media judgement, a judgement based on gossip. We need to be attentive to the ruling that will be presented by justice. Once justice has spoken, then I will speak."
How are you after your fall in Czestochowa?
"I was busy gazing at the Madonna and I forgot about the little step! I was holding the thurible and when I felt I was falling I let myself go and this is what saved me. Had I resisted the fall, there would have been consequences. But everything was ok."
Last week there was talk of the Vatican acting as one of the negotiating parties in the Venezuelan crisis. Is this a real possibility?
"Two year ago I had a positive meeting with president Maduro. Then he asked for an audience with me last year but cancelled because he had otitis. I let some time go by and then I wrote him a letter. We talked about a potential meeting. Yes, with the conditions that are presented in such cases: at the moment - though I am not sure - the possibility of a representative of the Holy See joining the mediation group is being deliberated.
Before starting the press conference, Francis spared a thought for a RAI correspondent who died in Krakow: “As you are her colleagues, I wish to express my condolences for the death of Anna Maria Jacobini. I met her sister and other members of the family. This was a sad part of the trip.” The Pope also celebrated the director of the Vatican press office Fr. Federico Lombardi’s last day on the job, along with Mauro, a member of staff who handled baggage on papal flights. It was his last day on the job too. “I would like to thank Fr. Lombardi and Mauro as this is the last time they will be travelling with us. Fr. Lombardi has been with Vatican Radio for more than 25 years and has been on papal flights for ten years. Mauro has been in charge of baggage for 37 years. I thank both of them vey much.” After the press conference, Rome Reports journalist Javier Martinez Brocal introduced WYD 2019, which is to be celebrated in Panama, by presenting Pope Francis with a Panama hat, which he wore straight away.
Francis denies that Islam is violent
“I don’t like to talk about Islamic violence, because every day, when I read the newspaper, I see violence,” Francis said, when asked about why he never speaks of Islamic terrorism or fundamentalism when condemning attacks such as the murder of a French priest last week, who had his throat slit by an Islamic terrorist as he was celebrating Mass.
The pope said that when he reads the newspaper, he reads about an Italian who kills his fiancé or his mother in law.
“They are baptized Catholics. They are violent Catholics,” Francis said, adding that if he speaks of “Islamic violence,” then he has to speak of “Catholic violence” too.
The pope made his remarks in a wide-ranging news conference with journalists travelling with him back to Rome after a five-day visit to Poland in which Francis presided over World Youth Day, a gathering of Catholic youth from all around the world in Krakow, Poland.
The pope said that in every religion there are violent people, “a small group of fundamentalists,” including in Catholicism.
“When fundamentalism goes as far as murdering … you can murder with your tongue and also with the knife,” he said.
“I believe that it’s not fair to identify Islam with violence. It’s not fair and it’s not true,” he continued, adding that he’s had a long conversation with the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, the Cairo-based Islamic university often described as the Vatican of the Sunni world.
“I know how they think. They look for peace, encounter,” he said.
Francis added that in the case of European youth, many have been left “with no ideals, no work, that end in the hands of drugs and alcohol, and then go over there [didn’t specify] and enlist.”
He did acknowledge that ISIS is an “Islamic state that presents itself as violent.”
“It’s a fundamentalist group that calls itself ISIS, but it can’t be said, it’s not true, and it’s not fair, that Islam is terrorist,” Francis said.
Although clarifying that he didn’t know if he should say it because “it’s dangerous,” the pope then admitted that terrorism grows when “there’s no other option.”
“As long as the god of money is at the center of the global economy and not the human person, man and woman, this is the first terrorism,” he said, defining it as a “terrorism at the bases,” against the whole of humanity.
Pope Francis also addressed accusations of sexual abuse lodged against his top financial official, Australian Cardinal George Pell.
Francis said the information that has come out regarding the allegations was “confusing,” dating back 40 years.
“Even the police ignored them in the beginning, and later, they were presented to the justice system,” he said.
The pope also said that it’d be wrong for him to pass judgement, either in favor or against the embattled cardinal, before the justice system does.
“It wouldn’t be fair,” he said.
“It’s true, there’s doubt, but there’s a clear principle in law: in dubio pro reo [meaning when in doubt, for the accused],” Francis told reporters, before adding that “we mustn’t do an anticipated judgement, a media judgement, a rumor [based] judgement.”
Pell, handpicked by the pontiff to lead a reform of the Vatican’s financial systems, is reportedly being investigated by Australian police over alleged sexual misconduct allegations that occurred in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, including the period when he was already Archbishop of Melbourne.
As he’s done several times in the past when similar allegations arose, Pell forcefully denied the allegations earlier in the week when the Australian network ABC reported them.
A statement released by his office said that he “denies the allegations absolutely and says that they, and any acceptance of them by the ABC, are nothing more than a scandalous smear campaign which appears to be championed by the ABC. If there was any credibility in any of these claims, the would have been pursued by the Royal Commission by now.”
The Royal Commission is a government-appointed body created to investigate allegations of institutional sexual abuse of minors, going back several decades. Pell has given testimony to it in several opportunities, the last one being earlier this year, when he was questioned through video link from Australia after his doctors advised him against making the trip back home.
The complaints revealed by ABC include allegations by two men now in their forties from Pell’s home town of Ballarat, who say he touched them inappropriately in the summer of 1978-79 when he was playing a throwing game with them in a town pool.
In another complaint, Torquay businessman Les Tyack gave a statement to the Royal Commission last year relating to an incident at the Torquay Surf Life Saving Club in the summer of 1986-87.
He said he walked into the club change rooms to discover a naked Pell behaving in a manner that caused him concern in front of three boys he estimated to be aged between 8 and 10 years old.
A further complaint that ABC reported relates to the period in the 1990s when Pell was setting up the Melbourne Response - the Australian Catholic Church’s first attempt to address child abuse. It involves two teenage choirboys who asked their parents to leave the choir soon after the alleged abuse had occurred.
“The cardinal’s conduct has been repeatedly scrutinized over many years, including before the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, the Victorian Parliamentary Inquiry into the Handling of Child Abuse by Religious and Other Organizations and, according to leaked reports, by Victorian Police’s SANO Taskforce,” the statement released by Pell’s office said.
“The cardinal does not wish to cause any distress to any victim of abuse. However, claims that he has sexually abused anyone, in any place, at any time in his life are totally untrue and completely wrong,” the statement said.
Regarding Venezuela, Francis was questioned by the Spanish speaking journalists, who wanted to know about the possibility of the Vatican joining a dialogue between the government of President Nicolas Maduro and his political opposition.
Francis said that he believes at least one of the parties had requested for the Vatican to aid in the mediation, adding, however, that he couldn’t confirm this.
The opposition has, in fact, said that unless a papal representative joins the dialogue table, they won’t participate.
The situation in Venezuela is becoming dire, with people dying in the hospital for lack of medicine and people waiting in line for 16 hours to buy bread. Across the country, citizens are looting supermarkets and mobs are attacking trucks transporting goods out of hunger.
Regarding Turkey, the pope was asked about his silence over President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s reaction to the failed military coup two weeks ago.
Francis said that even though he’s been outspoken whenever there was something he “didn’t like about Turkey” with the consequences “known to all,” he currently doesn’t feel he has enough information, despite the help from the Vatican’s Secretary of State and political consultants, to voice an opinion.
When he speaks about having been vocal, he was likely referring to using the word “genocide” to talk about the early 20th century mass killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks.
When he used the word last year during a Mass for the 100th anniversary of the genocide, for instance, Erdogan called back his ambassador to the Vatican, and only sent him back eleven months later.
