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Tuesday, September 8, 2015

VIDEO- Fr. Hesse vs. Michael Voris (Vatican II heretic) Showdown

 VIDEO- Fr. Hesse vs. Michael Voris (Vatican II heretic) Showdown 

In this MUST WATCH video, Fr. Hesse mentions papalism. Papalism is a heresy that consists of thinking the Pope can never speak or write material heresy when the conditions of infallibility are not being engaged and/or which believes it is never proper to publicly warn the faithful of public material heresies of the Pope and public scandals of the Pope.

Michael Voris, useful idiot, is one of the most prominent proponents of a certain type of papalism. Michael refuses to warn the faithful about the public material heresy and public scandals of not only "Pope" Francis, but also of some of his recent predecessors. This is a serious omission because Catholics have a duty to warn others about heresy and scandalous public examples, even if they are done by a Pope. We have many cases in Church history where saints publicly warned others about material heresy of a Pope. Examples include St. Paul publicly “resisting Peter to the face” (Galatians 2:11), St. Athanasius publicly resisting Pope Liberius’s favoring of the Arian heresy and refusing to accept his invalid excommunication, hundreds of leading Catholics (bishops, theologians, professors, lay faithful) publicly rejecting the infamous materially heretical statement of Pope John XXII (which the latter repented of on his deathbed), and the list goes on and on. Strangely, Michael Voris never mentions or addresses these historical examples. We also have many doctors of the Church and eminent, papally-approved theologians who have written about the duties of Catholics to publicly resist public material heresy and public scandals of a Pope, including Juan Cardinal De Torquemada O.P., Francisco Suarez S.J., Cardinal de Vio Gaetani Cajetan O.P., etc. who all wrote about how to respond to the situation of a materially heretical Pope.

Michael Voris appears to be highly uneducated in this area or otherwise not interested in the truth or in facts. To quote a famous saying: he seems to not want to be “confused with the facts”. But Michael Voris does not stop there. Not only does he fail in his duty to publicly speak out against the material heresy of recent Popes, but he accuses others who do point out these public material heresies and scandals, convinced that they should not do that. Yet he never addresses the historic reality of saints, doctors of the Church, bishops, papally-appointed theologians, professors, priests, and lay faithful who (1) did publicly point out and warn others during the pontificates of Pope Liberius, Pope Honorius, and Pope John XXII and/or (2) who wrote for future generations that should a heretical Pope come, we should not follow him and should warn others. Tradition, history, correct theology, and common sense refute Voris’s position in this regard.

But what’s worse: Michael Voris effectively practically denies much of the obvious material heresies and scandals of recent Popes by going so far as to call Pope John Paul II a saint. A common sense analysis of his life, teachings, and example will show that the Tradition of the Church would not allow such a Pope to be validly canonized, and there are strong arguments for why his supposed canonization is indeed invalid and is not infallible and why we should pray for the repose of his soul (see my other video for full details).

And lest someone who thinks similar to Voris should complain that Fr. Gregory Hesse in some instances might be too harsh in speaking about objective facts about some of the material heresy of recent Popes (he makes it clear he never judges the person, he only warns the faithful against harmful public words of the Pope, harmful public actions of the Pope, and harmful public decisions in his way of government): perhaps then they would find the infallible Ecumenical Council Constantinople III too harsh with materially heretical Popes too when it states:

“We foresaw that, together with them, also Honorius, before Pope of Old Rome, is cast out of the Holy Catholic Church of God and anathematized, for we have found by his writings sent to [the heretic] Sergius, that he followed the thinking of the latter in everything, and continued his impious principles. [...] To Sergius, the heretic, anathema! To Cyrus, the heretic, anathema! To [Pope] Honorius, the heretic, anathema!” (these statements were confirmed by Pope Leo II, 683):

I don’t think Fr. Gregory Hesse was ever as harsh as Pope Leo II and the infallible Third Ecumenical Council of Constantinople.

Fr. Gregory Hesse, S.T.D., J.C.D., S.T.L., J.C.L., Canon Lawyer, Doctor of Thomistic Theology, Lifelong Friend and Personal Secretary of Cardinal Stickler at the Vatican from 1986-1988 gives a no-nonsense, intelligent, learned, and witty exposition and explanation of relevant topics facing contemporary faithful Catholics. Fr. Hesse got to know approx. 45 cardinals while studying and working in Rome for 15 years and he has an uncanny and substantial knowledge of many things. You would be hard-pressed to find another theologian quite like him. A breath of fresh air in today’s widespread climate of many weak, ignorant, and naive clerics and theologians, he was affectionately called by several of his friends during his life “the bull in the china shop.” His example, testimony, and insights no doubt played and will play an important role in Catholic thought and development.

       Michael Voris, useful idiot, Opus Dei FrontMan,
Vatican II Heretic


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1 comment:

  1. I used to read some of the articles of that heretic. Of course at first I never thought of him as a heretic. But when I began to see that he refused to acknowledge the recent popes as teachers of confusion and distress, especially the current pope who's name I refuse to utter, it became clear that Voris is a two faced hypocrite who knows the Church is falling to ruins but will not hesitate to call the pope a pope when he is an anti - pope.