"And I beheld, and heard the voice of one eagle flying through the midst of heaven,
saying with a loud voice: Woe, woe, woe to the inhabitants of the earth....
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 8:13]

Saturday, April 30, 2016

Fellay vs Lefebvre

Fellay vs Lefebvre

More proof that Bishop Fellay only pretends to be following the principles of Archbishop Lefebvre

Lefebvre to Ratzinger: Eminence… you are working to dechristianize society and the Church, and we are working to Christianize them. For us, our Lord Jesus Christ is everything, He is our life. 


"If the Pope expresses a legitimate desire about us that is good, that is not an order against the commandments of God do we have the right to disregard it , to reject this desire? And if not on what principle is the basis to act in this way?

"Also it lacks realism your attitude with respect to both intensity and amplitude errors.

"Intensity: In the Fraternity we are making the mistakes of super-heresies Council, making it the absolute evil, worse than all ...

"This particular situation, with the proposed canonical situation is very different from 1988. And when we compare the arguments that Archbishop Lefebvre had at the time, we conclude that it had not hesitated to accept what we have proposed.

"Pretending to wait until everything is settled to reach what you call a practical agreement, is not realistic."

(Letter of Msgr. Fellay and his two assistants to the three bishops, April 14, 2012).
"Even if it still seems impossible, we do know our Roman partners precisely what we mean by" recognize ourselves as we are , "which is and remains the sine qua non of our acceptance."

(Cor Unum, November 1, 2015).

" I summarized Cardinal Ratzinger whole situation, I said: Eminence, although we grant a bishop, although we grant certain autonomy from the bishops, although we grant the liturgy of 1962, we grant to continue with the seminars and Fraternity as we do now, we could not work, it is impossible, impossible, because we work in two diametrically opposite dimensions: you. work in Christianization of society, of the human person and of the Church and we work in the Christianization, we can not understand. You. Just said that society should not be Christian, that can not be Christian, which is against his nature, just wanted to prove that NSJ can not and should not reign in societies and wants to prove that human consciousness is free front to NSJ. It is necessary to leave the freedom and autonomous social space as you. Says, is the de-Christianization, and well, we are in favor of Christianization, we can not understand and that I assure you is short, you can not follow these people . "

(Conference Msgr. Lefebvre in Ecône during the priestly retreat of September 4, 1987).
How any one can think that what Bishop Fellay is doing Archbishop Lefebvre would likewise do is beyond me and is HIGHLY delusional. The VII Popes are Universalists so in reality they embrace all in their New Religion. Bishop Fellay is either not astute enough theologically to pick that up or he is simply playing dumb to get his "practical agreement".  Modernists calling someone Catholic doesn't cut it. By signing any agreement with modernists or accepting any label from them as Catholic is indeed to be "working with them".  Heck, even Pseudo Traditionalist Fr. Schmidberger thinks it would be great that the Society could be used for the "New Evangelization" as if we needed to give any more proof that the NeoSSPX is essentially another hybrid pseudo traditionalist group trying to fit itself into the mainstream.