The Church Going Underground
By: Eric Gajewski
There are still so many delusional pseudo traditionalists like those following Bishop Fellay who fail to realize that soon the Church is indeed going underground as Fr. Martin attested to (he read the real 3rd secret) . Hey!... but Francis is a modernist… says Bishop Fellay… and yet he (Francis) says the SSPX is Catholic so this is good the SSPX says (LOL)?! That is the “brilliant” analysis you will get in the Neo SSPX. If you can figure out that one you get the gold star on your refrigerator for the day. These pseudo trads are very double minded or cant make up their mind at all. There will be no Pope in Rome soon that is a fact. The False Prophet will in fact not even want to be called Pope per the new age’s own writings. Thus, the Catholic Church will not be setup in Rome as the False Prophet takes over Rome and installs his 5 step self-realization program (removing the Sacraments banning public Mass, etc).
This is the Apostate Church of Darkness NOT the Catholic Church (these inept pseudo trads will still be screaming VISIBILITY, LOL)! These pseudo trads seem to think the Church will always remain in Rome however they are refuted. To those who would put forth the argument that the Catholic Church is the “Roman Catholic Church” and that Catholicism is inseparable from Rome, I refer them to an allocution given by Pope Pius XII in 1949:
“If there should ever come a day – We say this as a matter of pure hypothesis – when the physical reality of Rome were to crumble; if ever this Vatican Basilica, the symbol of the one, invincible, and victorious Catholic Church, were to bury beneath its ruins the historical treasures and the sacred tombs it enshrines, even then the Church would not, by that fact, be overthrown or undermined; the promise of Christ to Peter would always remain true, the Papacy would continue unchanged, as well as the one, indestructible Church founded on the Pope alive at that time.”
“Thus it is: Rome the Eternal in the supernatural and Christian sense, is superior to the Rome of history. Her supernatural and eternal truth are superior to and independent of the historic City.”
So where will the true Pope be soon? Answer, not in Rome (after BXVI flees) yet certain pseudo trads say the Church will always be in Rome! Argument refuted. There are still so many false traditionalists slinging around big words who over complicate the matter claiming to be historical experts. Some of them I have refused to post their content going forward because of their errors like saying sedevacantism is heresy which is utter nonsense. Although I do not agree with the position (it is impractical) there have been theologians to suggest the “possibility thereof” and that is all that it is (an opinion). The position cannot be raised to the level of dogma and certain sensible sedevacantists know this. No condemnation ever came from the Holy See on the matter against these theologians therefore it can’t be heresy. Alot of pseudo trads propose things as dogma yet you cannot find any precedence to back up their case. This pseudo trad myth has been easily refuted. These are the same ones who cling (to some degree) to the diabolical Second Vatican Council which is the pastoral implementation of the New Religion. It is loaded with Masonry (including heresy). Sodomite Pope Paul the 6th even called it a representation of the cult of man (FreeMasonry/Satanism)! But we can accept 95 percent of it (say these false traditionalists); it is Catholic (pseudo trads say)? These people are ridiculous prelates and apologists included.
Listen in to this detailed talk given by Father Hesse on why Vatican II is to be considered neither Catholic nor a Council. This is a 5 part video series. Very informative which helps denounce some of the arguments modernists/pseudo trads and sedevacanists make on the theological qualification of Vatican II.
Exposing the Worst of Vatican II
First off can we say given all the evidence that has been collected in the case against Bergoglio that indeed he is an antipope? Yes, we can as I have covered extensively here. He was forced out as a matter of public record (per canon law makes his resignation invalid) and his actual resignation is indeed invalid. There are still other arguments that other traditionalists will cite but these two main arguments alone are enough. The pseudo trad myth that we need authority to say this doesn’t hold up when in fact we have had Saints choosing the wrong Pope at times in Church history (who were not declared heretics). Secondarily, what authority do these certain pseudo traditionalists have to say sedevacantism is heresy ( fyi: I am not one by the way)? Answer, none! The same ones who say we don’t have any authority apparently. That is how “brilliant” these apologists are. These false traditionalists are a dime a dozen these days many of them with advanced degrees starving for attention due to their irrelevance (declining popularity) and trying to push their books/conferences because they seemingly need some financial help perhaps? These are the Bishop Fellay “cheerleaders” though for you. These are the same “apologists” who I have sent personal emails catching them off guard in relation to them not knowing what Archbishop Lefebvre truly taught and they know it (no attempted refutation to admit they didnt know; deer in the headlights). Then the “internet stuttering” begins. Well…Well…Well… They say they follow Lefebvre but they do not they are frauds. Moving along.
A Catholics Response to the Pseudo Trad argument "we are protestant" for asserting few will hold the Faith or the Church will become small (in relation to Formal New Age Religion)
Does the reality that an Apostate Church will be setup run contrary to any Catholic teaching? Answer, not at all. Rome losing the Faith does not at all imply a supposed error towards “a breach” in the indefectibility of the Church. (as they say) This argument made by certain false traditionalists is laughable. The Church (remnant hierarchy) will simply be on the move and be in a different place (and seemingly hidden). Indeed in relation to the New Age Religion we will be few (seemingly invisible and this DOES NOT RUPTURE ANY CHURCH TEACHING) as the early Fathers taught unanimously. How few? 1/3, ¼ (after the formal schism). …only thousands… who knows. “Great” or large can still be implied as a “vast minority of members” in relation to the dominant global religion which certainly won’t be the Catholic religion. The implications I have stated otherwise is fraudulent on their behalf. None of us can know at this point given all of the variables (chastisements and persecution). These pseudo trads some of whom have been Masons themselves are completely clueless when it comes to the NWO plan and the emerging New Age and it shows in their impotent arguments. I personally had several talks (off air) with one in particular and it was apparent that he was clueless on these matters (as much as he claims to know about Fatima).
Father Martin said in numerous interviews that unless that we accept that there is an ongoing apostasy now (Vatican II) the third secret makes no sense and why? This is because as he said “the buildings will become null and void”. This means that the majority of the heretical Novus Ordo buildings will accept the formal New Age Apostate Religion. I repeat the coming Apostate Church of Darkness is not the Catholic Church with “baptized” Catholics in it!
Fellay's Pseudo Trad Cheerleaders Make For An Exciting Time Though
Yet another prominent figure to speak of the soon coming Apostate Church:
Archbishop Fulton Sheen
"He [Satan] will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the Church, because he, the Devil, is the ape of God. It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content. It will be a mystical body of the Antichrist that will in all externals resemble the mystical body of Christ. . . .But the twentieth century will join the counterchurch because it claims to be infallible when its visible head (False Prophet NOT a Pope!) speaks ex cathedra" (Fulton J. Sheen, Communism and the Conscience of the West, Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merrill, 1948, pp. 24-25, emphasis mine).
How did Archbishop Lefebvre answer question of “visibility” and refute Bishop Fellay and other pseudo traditionalists??
How to apply the past to today in times of Crisis? What is true Resistance?
“The apostasy of the city of Rome from the vicar of Christ and its destruction by Antichrist may be thoughts very new to many Catholics, that I think it well to recite the text of theologians of greatest repute. First Malvenda, who writes expressly on the subject, states as the opinion of Ribera, Gaspar Melus, Biegas, Suarrez, Bellarmine and Bosius that Rome shall apostatize from the Faith, drive away the Vicar of Christ and return to its ancient paganism. ...Then the Church shall be scattered, driven into the wilderness, and shall be for a time, as it was in the beginning, invisible; hidden in catacombs, in dens, in mountains, in lurking places; for a time it shall be swept, as it were from the face of the earth. Such is the universal testimony of the Fathers of the early Church.”- Henry Edward Cardinal Manning, The Present Crisis of the Holy See, 1861, London: Burns and Lambert, pp. 88-90)
So when the false prophet arrives in Rome and sets up this new self-realization program, one of which, will be the “mark of the beast” (2nd step), will these inept pseudo traditionalists still recognize him as “the Pope”? Will they claim him under the inept “universal recognition” argument or worse yet the “visibility of the church” argument? It seems given their very impotent yet very rigorist position they will! These idiots will probably even take the mark of the beast citing “visibility of the church!” I don’t doubt it at this point in all honesty. The Church is going underground much to the pseudo trad dismay that it will not and in return we are called “heretics” or being protestant for simply reiterating what the early Church Fathers taught (even BXVI said the same who knows the real third secret!). To say we will be “invisible” in this sense or in the vast minority (in relation to the New Age Religion) is not to be Protestant at all but it is these false traditionalists (with an impotent rigorist position on the matter) who try to convince people otherwise. Those who sign up (take the mark) for the Apostate Church WILL NOT AT ALL BE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, end of story! In fact Scripture warns they will lose their soul! This is how snakes like Fellay currently can try to get away with shaking hands with the enemies of the Church. They argue, “Because they were baptized Catholic, Eric (they say). St Athanasius laughs at you all from the other side! If the Faith isn’t there you can’t be there that IS Catholic teaching!
The face of cluelessness...
The masses are seeing all the loopholes in their weak argumentation and are bailing these groups/websites. Further, that is why these apologists have declining numbers as it relates to those coming to their websites (even the SSPX) because people are not interested in their poor analysis and erroneous positions in these endtimes and the objective numbers are there to prove this (any website owner can check). Some of them seemingly VERY desperate to get their material circulated, take it elsewhere Mr. Pseudo Traditionalist. The one in particular who recently anonymously attacked me has websites rating of 3.7 and 1.3 million respectively? It is not a question of pride but a matter of fact that “no one really cares what he has to say”…. as much as he thinks traditionalists do. The same person by the way is a notorious fence sitter looking for endorsements for his book from known Novus Ordites (Scott Hahn, yes really?)! I kid you not, true story! He asked me personally if he thought he would endorse his book… these pseudo trads are pathetic and desperate. Can you say frightening! The website “watching paint dry.com” has more readers than you! Go back to being irrelevant you were doing a good job previously no sense in slowing down now. "Protestant errors" they claim but theological buffoons they remain. Please do a piece on me in the future with my name and website next time. You and I both know you will only lose more of your readers (of what little you have to begin with) once they get to my page, Ave Maria!
In the end, to say that those holding onto the Faith will be few or that the church will become small (in endtimes) in number and in relation to the emerging New Age religion is not protestant. There have been notable churchmen and saints to suggest we would be reduced to a significantly low number including Blessed Anna Emmerick. If I am "protestant" then so were they and why were their writings/revelations never condemned by the Church? The Pseudo traditionalists are funny...I do not know what is more pathetic this gigantic oversight or the constant begging me (of this pseudo trad apologist) to post my last talk with him (like an old girlfriend would beg to have you back) as if his next meal depended upon it. The struggles of a pseudo trad I guess these days. This is supposed to be a grown man?
Benedict XVI: “The church will become small”
Melanie Calvat was one of the two seers of La Salette. The following extract is taken from the book “The Secret of Melanie and the Actual Crisis” by Abbot Combe, 1906:
“The Church will be eclipsed. At first, we will not know which is the true pope. Then secondly, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass will cease to be offered in churches and houses; it will be such that, for a time, there will not be public services any more. But I see that the Holy Sacrifice has not really ceased: it will be offered in barns, in alcoves, in caves, and underground.”
Blessed Anna Emmerick revelations approved by the Catholic Church:
“The Church is completely isolated and as if completely deserted. It seems that everyone is running away.”
“Then I saw that everything that pertained to Protestantism was gradually gaining the upper hand, and the Catholic religion fell into complete decadence…”
“In those days, Faith will fall very low, and it will be preserved in some places only, in a few cottages and in a few families which God has protected from disasters and wars.”
“He said, among other things, that this translation of the Church from one place to another meant that She would seem to be in complete decline. But She would rise again; even if there remained but one Catholic (I guess Blessed Anna Emmerick was a Protestant who violated “moral catholicity”, LOL), the Church would conquer again because She does not rest on human counsels and intelligence. It was also shown to me that there were almost no Christians left in the old acceptation of the word.”
“I saw an apparition of the Mother of God, and she said that the tribulation would be very great. She added that these people must pray fervently with outstretched arms… They must pray above all for the Church of Darkness to leave Rome.”
St. Nicholas von Flue (15th century)
“The Church will be punished because the majority of Her members, high and low, will become so perverted. The Church will sink deeper and deeper until She will at last seem to be extinguished, and the succession of Peter and the other Apostles to have expired. But, after this, She will be victoriously exalted in the sight of all doubters.”
St. Hippolytus (3rd century)
"And the churches too will wail with a mighty lamentation, because neither oblation nor incense is attended to, nor a service acceptable to God; but the sanctuaries of the churches will become like a garden-watcher's hut, and the Holy Body and Blood of Christ will not be shown in those days. The public service of God shall be extinguished."
Our Lady of La Salette
“Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of Antichrist.”
Fr Malachi Martin: Conciliar Church is an illusion
Note: The NeoSSPX has abandoned the position of Archbishop Lefebvre and in my opinion are not acceptable to go to…the video is dated…