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Wednesday, October 7, 2015

Women Deacons & Discussion on Divorce & Gays

Women Deacons & Discussion on Divorce & Gays
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Canadian archbishop: Let’s allow women to be deacons

Canadian Archbishop Paul-Andre Durocher of Gatineau, Quebec, said the synod should reflect on the possibility of allowing for female deacons as it seeks ways to open up more opportunities for women in Church life.

 

Where possible, qualified women should be given higher positions and decision-making authority within Church structures and new opportunities in ministry, he told Catholic News Service Tuesday.

Discussing a number of proposals he offered the synod fathers to think about, he said, “I think we should really start looking seriously at the possibility of ordaining women deacons because the diaconate in the Church’s tradition has been defined as not being ordered toward priesthood but toward ministry.”
Currently, the Catholic Church permits only men to be ordained as deacons. Deacons can preach and preside at baptisms, funerals, and weddings, but may not celebrate Mass or hear confessions.
Speaking to participants at the Synod of Bishops on the family Oct. 6, Durocher said he dedicated his three-minute speech to the role of women in the Church — one of the many themes highlighted in the synod’s working document.
The working document, which is guiding the first three weeks of the synod’s discussions, proposed giving women greater responsibility in the Church, particularly through involving them in “the decision-making process, their participation — not simply in a formal way — in the governing of some institutions; and their involvement in the formation of ordained ministers.”
Durocher, who recently ended his term as president of the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops, told CNS that much of his brief talk was focused on the lingering problem of violence against women, including domestic violence. He said the World Health Organization estimates that 30 percent of women worldwide experience violence by their partner.
He reminded the synod fathers that in the apostolic exhortation “Familiaris Consortio” in 1981, St. John Paul II basically told the Church that “we have to make a concerted and clear effort to make sure that there is no more degradation of women in our world, particularly in marriage. And I said, ‘Well, here we are 30 years later and we’re still facing these kinds of numbers.’”
He said he recommended one thing they could do to address this problem was, “as a synod, clearly state that you cannot justify the domination of men over women — certainly not violence — through biblical interpretation,” particularly incorrect interpretations of St. Paul’s call for women to be submissive to their husbands.
In his presentation, the archbishop also noted that Pope Benedict XVI had talked about the question of new ministries for women in the Church. “It’s a just question to ask. Shouldn’t we be opening up new venues for ministry of women in the Church?” he said.
In addition to the possibility of allowing for women deacons, he said he also proposed that women be hired for “decision-making jobs” that could be opened to women in the Roman Curia, diocesan chanceries, and large-scale Church initiatives and events.
Another thing, he said, “would be to look at the possibility of allowing married couples — men and women, who have been properly trained and accompanied — to speak during Sunday homilies so that they can testify, give witness to the relationship between God’s word and their own marriage life, and their own life as families.”
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/10/06/canadian-archbishop-lets-allow-women-to-be-deacons/


Catholic bishops push for open discussion on divorce, gays at Vatican synod

The Vatican’s high-level meeting on the family continued Tuesday, with bishops emphasizing the need for open discussion on divorced and remarried Catholics.

The 62 bishops who have so far spoken at the gathering, called a synod, appeared to push back strongly against remarks Monday by Hungary’s Cardinal Peter Erdo, who defended the church’s exclusion of divorced and remarried couples from receiving Communion unless they’ve been granted an annulment and remarried in the church.
Speaking to journalists Tuesday, Archbishop Claudio Maria Celli, president of the Pontifical Council for Social Communications, said there would be an open discussion on the topic. “The synod has a wide vision … of the universal church,” Celli said.

The Rev. Thomas Rosica, English-language assistant to the Vatican press office, said bishops feel the need to change the language used by clergy with regard to gay people, cohabitating couples or, in the case of some African nations, polygamous marriages.
“There must be an end to exclusionary language and a strong emphasis on embracing reality as it is; we should not be afraid,” he said.

Rosica’s comments echo those made by Pope Francis at Tuesday’s Mass, in which he stressed the need for mercy and flexibility.
“Where the Lord is, there is mercy,” the pontiff said. “Where his ministers are, there is rigidity. The rigidity that defies mission, which challenges mercy.”

A day earlier, Francis told bishops not to safeguard a “museum of memories” in the church, while advising them to do away with their prejudices and listen to one another.
Francis is keeping a close eye on this year’s synod, although he is not expected to attend any of the bishop’s smaller group meetings, which started Tuesday.
While much outside attention has been placed on the church’s approach to divorced and remarried couples, as well as gay Catholics, the synod discussions so far demonstrate a broad agenda.

The topics mentioned by bishops include violence and sexual abuse, war and refugees, and the effects of globalization. The three-week synod concludes Oct. 25, when bishops are expected to publish the outcome of their discussions.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/10/06/catholic-bishops-synod-vatican-pope-francis/73465646/

The Modernist WarCry of "Mercy" Continueth...

Bl. Anna Emmerick “The Church is in great danger… I see that in this place (Rome) the (Catholic) Church is being so cleverly undermined, that there will hardly remain a hundred or so priests who have not been deceived. They all work for destruction, even the clergy. The great devastation is now at hand.”  

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  28. opening up new venues for ministry of women in the Church

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  29. Well this decision as booth sides.Absolutely Church needs Women contribution too but the department or the responsibilities must be well understood by the women.

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  30. Well Gays must be accepted in the society and treated in same way as other do because its nothing new which is happening.Th only wired thing the marriage seems little skeptical to me.

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