Francis Stacks the Deck Against the Conservatives for the Synod
The Conservatives NEED to repent of their Vatican II Modernism/Liberalism
IN: Cupich,
Marx, Dolan, Schonborn, Forte, Bode, Bonny, Kasper, Koch, Nichols,
Martin, Baldisseri, Pontier, Caffarra, Wuerl, Lovey, Brunin, Danneels,
Maradiaga, Tagle, Fernandez, Muller
OUT: Burke, Lenga, Schneider, Brandmuller, De Paolis
Today the "Unholy See" released the official list of all participants of the “Synod on [=against] the Family” to be held October 4-25, 2015 in the Vatican. Not surprisingly, the list contains virtually all of the big names associated with promoting the idea of giving the sacraments to adulterers, many of which already met in a secret “shadow synod” earlier this year, whereas many of the “conservative” players have not been invited.
To give you an idea: Most of the bishops usually promoted by the pseudo-traditionalist and neo-conservative wing of the Modernist Sect — specifically Cardinals Burke, Brandmuller, and de Paolis, Archbishop Lenga, and Bishop Schneider — will not be allowed to participate. Of the co-authors of the book Remaining in the Truth of Christ that was so heavily promoted by the conservative wishful thinkers in the Vatican II Church (Mr. Zuhlsdorf in particular comes to mind), only two will be allowed to come to the synod: Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Muller, the head of the Congregation for the Destruction of the Faith, and Cardinal Carlo Caffarra, Archbishop of Bologna. Of the other cardinals that later joined the “conservative” resistance by publishing Eleven Cardinals Speak on Marriage and Family, only Baselios Thottunkal, Willem Eijk, and Robert Sarah have been invited.
By contrast, the Vatican is happy to welcome the following pseudo-theological scoundrels (among others — click on the name of each participant below to see how each of them has manifested his true colors regarding adultery, homosexuality, sacraments for people in public mortal sin, and so forth):
- “Cardinal” Christoph Schonborn of Austria
- “Cardinal” Vincent Nichols of England
- “Cardinal” Reinhard Marx of Germany
- “Cardinal” Walter Kasper of Germany
- “Cardinal” Godfried Danneels of Belgium
- “Cardinal” Oscar Rodriguez-Maradiaga of Honduras
- “Cardinal” Lorenzo Baldisseri of Italy
- “Cardinal” Timothy Dolan of the United States
- “Archbishop” Blase Cupich of the United States
- “Archbishop” Bruno Forte of Italy
- “Archbishop” Victor Fernandez of Argentina
- “Archbishop” Georges Pontier of France
- “Archbishop” Diarmuid Martin of Ireland
- “Archbishop” Heiner Koch of Germany
- “Bishop” Jean-Luc Brunin of France
- “Bishop” Franz-Josef Bode of Germany (also see this!)
- “Bishop” Johan Jozef Bonny of Belgium
- “Bishop” Jean-Marie Lovey of Switzerland
So these are the people Francis is pleased to have join him in making church policy on matters of moral theology, pastoral theology, and canon law, without, of course, changing doctrine (wink, wink).
Let no one tell you that it is “unfair” to ascribe all these participants to Francis on the grounds that he did not himself appoint each and every one of these directly, but that for a lot of participants, he simply approved candidates chosen by the local bishops’ conferences — that is a laughable copout. At the end of the day, Francis is in charge, he is in full control over who will attend this meeting, and he could, by a mere wave of the hand, so to speak, exclude anyone he pleases, without even so much as having to provide a reason. So, let’s not get sidetracked here. The buck stops with him, and he’s the one who called the synod in the first place.
While a lot of Africans — generally considered as conservative — will also be attending the synod (Rorate Caeli has more details), it is clear that the deck is stacked in favor of the liberals, who want to accommodate unrepentant adulterers and homo-perverts by changing Novus Ordo church law, in what promises to be an explosive now-or-never showdown.
Let’s see how Michael Voris and his Church Disneyland crew are going to spin this. In any case, one thing is for certain: It’s going to get interesting
German Synod father wants ‘private blessing’ for gay unions, says adultery can be more Catholic than marriage
September 15, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – A German bishop slated to attend next month’s Synod on the Family is again stoking controversy after suggesting the Church should offer a “private blessing” for same-sex unions, and that an adulterous relationship could be more in keeping with the Catholic vision of marriage than an actual sacramental marriage.
Bishop Franz-Josef Bode, one of the three German delegates for the synod, made those remarks in an interview with the German Catholic news agency KNA.
While he repeats in this interview the traditional teaching on the indissolubility of marriage, the German bishop claims at the same time that people can “come to a new relationship which is more mature than the first [relationship], but which does not have the same sacramental value.” He then raises the question as to whether “this new reality – which perhaps corresponds in a better way than the first [relationship] to the Covenant of God with men – always has to have as a consequence the exclusion from [the Sacraments of] Confession and Communion.” He thus questions whether “remarried” couples may, after all, not be admitted to the Sacraments without changing their way of life.
The German Catholic pro-life activist and author of several books, Mathias von Gersdorff, criticized Bode’s statement. “What Bishop Bode says here is simply horrifying and even absurd; a relationship before, next to, or after a marriage has no “sacramental value” at all,” he wrote. “It is simply sinful. It can also not be more mature, since it violates the Commandments of God. To say that it [such a new bond] could be ‘more in accordance with the Covenant of God with men,’ is nearly blasphemous.”
Also in the KNA interview, after again first repeating a part of the teaching of the Catholic Church – namely, that homosexual couples are not to be unjustly discriminated against – he then proceeds to claim that it is important to see in such unions, “just as in couples who live together before marrying,” the “strengths and not only their weaknesses and deficiencies.” While Bode proposes that the Church accompany such homosexual couples in a “positive way” and assist them, he states that they will, nevertheless, not result in “something that would be equal to a marriage.” Bode continues: “But, with prayers and a private form of a blessing, one will be able to accompany them on their way.”
Earlier this year, Bode had caused another controversy when he stated that the Church should take more into account the “life realities” of people and even consider them – these actualities – as a third source of revelation – next to Holy Scripture and Sacred Tradition. This claim provoked strong criticism by two prominent Church leaders, Cardinal Paul-Josef Cordes and Cardinal Kurt Koch.
The Ordinary Synod on the theme “The Vocation and Mission of the Family in the Church in the Contemporary World” will meet for the second time since last October’s Extraordinary Synod (“The Pastoral Challenges to the Family in the Context of Evangelization”). While the Extraordinary Synod (there have been three since it was instituted following the Council), as per the statute, was composed of the presidents of bishops’ conferences form all around the world, the upcoming Ordinary Synod is broader and will involve the participation of delegations chosen within every episcopate.
For example, in recent months Italy elected Cardinals Scola and Bagnasco and monsignors Brambilla and Solmi, Germany elected Cardinal Marx and monsignors Koch and Bode, Francse chose Cardinal Vingt Trois and monsignors Pontier, Brunin and James, Belgium chose Mgr. Bonny, Spain chose Cardinal Blazquez Perez and monsignors Iceta Gavicagogeascoa and Osoro Sierra, the US selected Cardinal Di Nardo and monsignors Kurtz, Chaput and Gomez, Brazil picked Cardinal Odilo Scherer and monsignors Da Rocha, Petrini and Lyrio Rocha, Mexico chose Cardinals Rivera Carrera and Robles Ortega along with monsignors Aguillar Martinez and Mirando Guardiola, India picked Cardinal Gracias and monsignors Do Rosario Ferrao, Ponnumuthan and Jala. As is known, all heads of dicasteries of the Roman Curia are members “ex officio” of the group of Synod Fathers, starting with the Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, members of Eastern Churches, 10 representatives elected by the Union of Superiors General, first and foremost the Superior General of the Jesuits, Fr. Adolfo Nicolas and naturally, the Secretariat of the Synod led by Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri and the workforce that guided proceedings at last year’s Synod: appointed presidents (the Frenchman André Vingt-Trois, the Filipino Luis Antonio Tagle, the Brazilian Raymundo Damasceno Assis and the South African Wilfrid Fox Napier), the relator general (Hungarian cardinal Peter Erdö) and the special secretary (the bishop of Chieti-Vasto, Bruno Forte). The commission that will compose the final message has not yet been appointed. Like last year, the commission for information is entrusted to Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi and the President of the Pontifical Council for Social Communications, Mgr. Claudio Maria Celli.
Today, the Holy See Press Office published the names of the Synod’s remaining participants, starting with the 45 members “ex nominatione pontificia”, the litmus test for understanding the Argentinian "Pope’s" desire to encourage an open discussion, even starting with with very different positions on the subject of the family, not excluding controversial questions such as the idea of granting communion to remarried divorcees, contraception, the gender theory and pastoral care for same-sex couples. Some who attended the last Synod as presidents of their episcopates, had not been elected. Francis has nominated Cardinals Sodano, Danneels, Kasper, Tettamanzi (who was not present last year), Caffarra, Schönborn (Vienna), Fox Napier (Durban), Maradiaga (Tegucicalpa), Erdö (Budapest), Martinez Sistach (Barcelona), MonsengwoPasinya (Kinshasa), Wuerl (Washington), Damasceno Assis (Aparecida), DOlan (New York), Tagle (Manila), Lacroix (Quebec), Bassetti (Perugina), Ouedraogo (Burkina Faso), Dew (Wellington, New Zealand), Menichelli (Ancona), Suarez Inda (Mexico), Montenegro (Agrigento), Sturla Berhouet (Montevideo), Lacuna Maestrojuan (David, Panama), Mafi (Tonga), Sgreccia, Bertello (Governor of the Vatican), plus: monsignors Porrai Cardozo (Venezuela), Spiteris (Greece), Forte, Ulrich (France), Aguiar Retes (Mexico), Castriani (Brazil), the Argentinean Jesuit Fernandez, Cupich (Chicago), Murry (US), Semeraro (Bishop of Albano, Italy, and secretary of the Council of Cardinals that assisted the Pope in reforming the Curia), Gaza Trevino (Mexico), Van Looy (Belgium) and finally, Mgr. Pinto (dean of the Tribunal of the Roman Rota), the Jesuits François-Xavier Dumortier (rector of the Gregorian university) and Antonio Spadaro (editor-in-chief of Italian Jesuit periodical La Civiltà Cattolica), the President of the Utriusque Iuris faculty of the Pontifical Lateran University, Manuel Jesus Arroba Conde and two parish priests, Perugina’s Saulo Scarabattoli and Trieste’s Roberto Rosa. Auditors include a number of women and theologians (including L’Osservatore Romano columnist Lucetta Scaraffia) and many married couples, as at last year’s Synod.
“The Synod as an institution does not aim to create power rivalries or difficulties in maintaining an ordered and efficient government within the Church. It is aimed at the "Pope" and the Episcopate’s mutual inclination towards greater communion and organic collaboration.” The next Ordinary Synod assembly will hold a special commemoration for the 50th anniversary of the establishment of the Synod of Bishops by Paul VI: “It will take place on 17 October, halfway through the Synod. An entire morning will be dedicated to the commemoration of the event which will take place in the Paul VI hall and will be open to the public. Many representatives of church institutions are expected to attend.” In addition, “Vienna’s Cardinal Christoph Schönborn will give a speech on 50 years of Synod activity. Five more speeches will follow from representatives of the various continents.” Do you think the Synod will deliberate on common solutions to the remarried divorcee question? “The Synod is not a deliberative body. Only the "Pope" and a Council in communion with the Pope can deliberate. The task of the upcoming Synod is to use authentic discernment in evaluating the proposals that will emerge, so that pastoral recommendations, proposals for adequate solutions, can be expressed in a collegial manner, with respect for the truth and in the spirit of charity and presented to the "Pope".”
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/sinodo-synod-sinodo-famiglia-familly-familia-43368/
While he repeats in this interview the traditional teaching on the indissolubility of marriage, the German bishop claims at the same time that people can “come to a new relationship which is more mature than the first [relationship], but which does not have the same sacramental value.” He then raises the question as to whether “this new reality – which perhaps corresponds in a better way than the first [relationship] to the Covenant of God with men – always has to have as a consequence the exclusion from [the Sacraments of] Confession and Communion.” He thus questions whether “remarried” couples may, after all, not be admitted to the Sacraments without changing their way of life.
The German Catholic pro-life activist and author of several books, Mathias von Gersdorff, criticized Bode’s statement. “What Bishop Bode says here is simply horrifying and even absurd; a relationship before, next to, or after a marriage has no “sacramental value” at all,” he wrote. “It is simply sinful. It can also not be more mature, since it violates the Commandments of God. To say that it [such a new bond] could be ‘more in accordance with the Covenant of God with men,’ is nearly blasphemous.”
Also in the KNA interview, after again first repeating a part of the teaching of the Catholic Church – namely, that homosexual couples are not to be unjustly discriminated against – he then proceeds to claim that it is important to see in such unions, “just as in couples who live together before marrying,” the “strengths and not only their weaknesses and deficiencies.” While Bode proposes that the Church accompany such homosexual couples in a “positive way” and assist them, he states that they will, nevertheless, not result in “something that would be equal to a marriage.” Bode continues: “But, with prayers and a private form of a blessing, one will be able to accompany them on their way.”
Earlier this year, Bode had caused another controversy when he stated that the Church should take more into account the “life realities” of people and even consider them – these actualities – as a third source of revelation – next to Holy Scripture and Sacred Tradition. This claim provoked strong criticism by two prominent Church leaders, Cardinal Paul-Josef Cordes and Cardinal Kurt Koch.
The list of Synod Fathers has been published
"Pope" Francis has completed the participant selection process for the
Ordinary Synod on the Family that will run from 4 to 25 October this
year. In addition to the participants foreseen by the statutes
(representatives of episcopates, heads of Curia dicasteries, members of
Eastern Churches, the special secretary’s collaborators, male and female
auditors, fraternal delegates), the "Pope" has personally nominated 45
Synod fathers (26 had taken part in last year’s Extraordinary Synod).
The Synod group is made up of Italian cardinals and bishops of all
orientations, including newly-created cardinals Bassetti, Montenegro and
Menichelli - who also took part in the last Synod -, two Italian parish
priests and recently nominated bishops such as the Archbishop of
Chicago, Blase J. Cupich.
The Ordinary Synod on the theme “The Vocation and Mission of the Family in the Church in the Contemporary World” will meet for the second time since last October’s Extraordinary Synod (“The Pastoral Challenges to the Family in the Context of Evangelization”). While the Extraordinary Synod (there have been three since it was instituted following the Council), as per the statute, was composed of the presidents of bishops’ conferences form all around the world, the upcoming Ordinary Synod is broader and will involve the participation of delegations chosen within every episcopate.
For example, in recent months Italy elected Cardinals Scola and Bagnasco and monsignors Brambilla and Solmi, Germany elected Cardinal Marx and monsignors Koch and Bode, Francse chose Cardinal Vingt Trois and monsignors Pontier, Brunin and James, Belgium chose Mgr. Bonny, Spain chose Cardinal Blazquez Perez and monsignors Iceta Gavicagogeascoa and Osoro Sierra, the US selected Cardinal Di Nardo and monsignors Kurtz, Chaput and Gomez, Brazil picked Cardinal Odilo Scherer and monsignors Da Rocha, Petrini and Lyrio Rocha, Mexico chose Cardinals Rivera Carrera and Robles Ortega along with monsignors Aguillar Martinez and Mirando Guardiola, India picked Cardinal Gracias and monsignors Do Rosario Ferrao, Ponnumuthan and Jala. As is known, all heads of dicasteries of the Roman Curia are members “ex officio” of the group of Synod Fathers, starting with the Vatican Secretary of State, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, members of Eastern Churches, 10 representatives elected by the Union of Superiors General, first and foremost the Superior General of the Jesuits, Fr. Adolfo Nicolas and naturally, the Secretariat of the Synod led by Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri and the workforce that guided proceedings at last year’s Synod: appointed presidents (the Frenchman André Vingt-Trois, the Filipino Luis Antonio Tagle, the Brazilian Raymundo Damasceno Assis and the South African Wilfrid Fox Napier), the relator general (Hungarian cardinal Peter Erdö) and the special secretary (the bishop of Chieti-Vasto, Bruno Forte). The commission that will compose the final message has not yet been appointed. Like last year, the commission for information is entrusted to Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi and the President of the Pontifical Council for Social Communications, Mgr. Claudio Maria Celli.
Today, the Holy See Press Office published the names of the Synod’s remaining participants, starting with the 45 members “ex nominatione pontificia”, the litmus test for understanding the Argentinian "Pope’s" desire to encourage an open discussion, even starting with with very different positions on the subject of the family, not excluding controversial questions such as the idea of granting communion to remarried divorcees, contraception, the gender theory and pastoral care for same-sex couples. Some who attended the last Synod as presidents of their episcopates, had not been elected. Francis has nominated Cardinals Sodano, Danneels, Kasper, Tettamanzi (who was not present last year), Caffarra, Schönborn (Vienna), Fox Napier (Durban), Maradiaga (Tegucicalpa), Erdö (Budapest), Martinez Sistach (Barcelona), MonsengwoPasinya (Kinshasa), Wuerl (Washington), Damasceno Assis (Aparecida), DOlan (New York), Tagle (Manila), Lacroix (Quebec), Bassetti (Perugina), Ouedraogo (Burkina Faso), Dew (Wellington, New Zealand), Menichelli (Ancona), Suarez Inda (Mexico), Montenegro (Agrigento), Sturla Berhouet (Montevideo), Lacuna Maestrojuan (David, Panama), Mafi (Tonga), Sgreccia, Bertello (Governor of the Vatican), plus: monsignors Porrai Cardozo (Venezuela), Spiteris (Greece), Forte, Ulrich (France), Aguiar Retes (Mexico), Castriani (Brazil), the Argentinean Jesuit Fernandez, Cupich (Chicago), Murry (US), Semeraro (Bishop of Albano, Italy, and secretary of the Council of Cardinals that assisted the Pope in reforming the Curia), Gaza Trevino (Mexico), Van Looy (Belgium) and finally, Mgr. Pinto (dean of the Tribunal of the Roman Rota), the Jesuits François-Xavier Dumortier (rector of the Gregorian university) and Antonio Spadaro (editor-in-chief of Italian Jesuit periodical La Civiltà Cattolica), the President of the Utriusque Iuris faculty of the Pontifical Lateran University, Manuel Jesus Arroba Conde and two parish priests, Perugina’s Saulo Scarabattoli and Trieste’s Roberto Rosa. Auditors include a number of women and theologians (including L’Osservatore Romano columnist Lucetta Scaraffia) and many married couples, as at last year’s Synod.
“The Synod as an institution does not aim to create power rivalries or difficulties in maintaining an ordered and efficient government within the Church. It is aimed at the "Pope" and the Episcopate’s mutual inclination towards greater communion and organic collaboration.” The next Ordinary Synod assembly will hold a special commemoration for the 50th anniversary of the establishment of the Synod of Bishops by Paul VI: “It will take place on 17 October, halfway through the Synod. An entire morning will be dedicated to the commemoration of the event which will take place in the Paul VI hall and will be open to the public. Many representatives of church institutions are expected to attend.” In addition, “Vienna’s Cardinal Christoph Schönborn will give a speech on 50 years of Synod activity. Five more speeches will follow from representatives of the various continents.” Do you think the Synod will deliberate on common solutions to the remarried divorcee question? “The Synod is not a deliberative body. Only the "Pope" and a Council in communion with the Pope can deliberate. The task of the upcoming Synod is to use authentic discernment in evaluating the proposals that will emerge, so that pastoral recommendations, proposals for adequate solutions, can be expressed in a collegial manner, with respect for the truth and in the spirit of charity and presented to the "Pope".”
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/sinodo-synod-sinodo-famiglia-familly-familia-43368/
TradCatKnight: Francis is not Pope to begin with. The "Conservative"
Cardinals are not the measure of Orthodoxy. Archbishop Lefebvre, the modern day
St. Athanasius is the measure of Catholicity these days. He opposed the
conservatives in the Vatican who fell for the diabolical council and the New
Mass. The Conservative Cardinals NEED to
repent of Vatican II and their modernism/liberalism. Vatican II needs to go
away forever...
Related:
http://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2015/09/cardinal-muller-warns-of-split-as-big.html
http://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2015/08/german-bishops-conference-website.html
http://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2015/05/confidential-meeting-seeks-to-sway.html
http://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2015/08/german-bishops-conference-website.html
http://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2015/05/confidential-meeting-seeks-to-sway.html
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I don't want to say any thing much about it but the future will decide the new changes which are coming in the church and the new selections should be very careful.
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