The
Material Heretic Must Still Be Avoided
By: Eric Gajewski
Archbishop
Lefebvre and Fr. Hesse made this very clear.
The material heretic is poison to your Faith regardless as to “what
degree of ignorance” he might be found in.
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I will
try to speak in laymen’s terms as best as possible for the sake of those
confused as to where they can go to Mass or not. Before I start we must understand what the traditionally
understood notion of a “material heretic” is because it is being undermined by
the likes of Salza and Siscoe (other false trads) who are using the erroneous modern day opinions of
prelates to teach their false doctrine on “heretics” in general. Read here for more. (https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=87AFC3674D82B3AA!1691&ithint=file%2cdocx&app=Word&authkey=!AH5zP2TOCoxh5M8)
It
is quite clear from Catholic teaching that the obstinate heretic must be
avoided but what about that heretic who believes what he is following is Catholic yet it truly is not?
You see the false traditionalist’s
(OnePeterFive, Remnant, Neo-SSPX, CFN, Fatima Center of Canada) of our times
get this area wrong time and time again.
Heresy in general is poison and is offensive to God.
Obstinate heretics who willfully teach
against what the Church has already taught infallibly not only commit mortal
sin but they sever themselves from the Catholic Body of Christ.
But what about the material heretic who, in
blindness, teach something to be Catholic when it is not (due to some level of
ignorance)?
This is an area I will get
into more with Fr. Kramer next month on the podcast but for the sake of this
article I want to tackle various areas within this topic and handle attempted
refutations while providing some further analysis in this worst crisis ever of
the Church.
First,
consider how the material heretic is still poisonous. Even though he might not be severed from the
mystical Body of Christ (interiorly) due to his invincible ignorance (on the
question of his following/teaching heresy) this does not mean that a catholic
in full knowledge of the in-question heresy and/or heresies can now commune
with these individuals.
Nor does it mean
that it is prudent to be around these folks a lot.
The material heretic is still in error and is
still leading others astray by his heresy objectively speaking. He is to be avoided lest by rubbing shoulders
with this type you become victim to his false teaching as well (sin of human
respect).
Some argue but Eric that is to
extreme we can make an impact by constant dialogue with these types!
FALSE.
Take a look at the Neo-SSPX who has been rubbing shoulders with material
heretics for decades now. They now see Cardinal Burke and other “conservative”
Cardinals as “not that bad” anymore.
They
have been swimming in the “false trad shark tank” and now they have loosened
their position.
That is fact not open
for debate anymore as they now see Vatican II as a legit “Catholic Council”.
One priest in the Society (a few years back) even
accused the “Resistance types” of being to principally orientated! God forbid!
Can you say compromise?
Does the
man who goes into the porn shop for even 5 minutes think he will come out
pure? The same applies to the Conciliar
Church in general.
They have impure
doctrines which will “rub off” on you overtime to say otherwise it highly
delusional and imprudent.
Yes they smile
and are “nice” but so are a lot of denominational protestants!
Avoid
material heretics? The Arian crisis and
other situations show us that it is prudent to avoid not only formally
heretical churches but churches which are
impious and/or compromising. The
early Church Fathers like St. Basil lamented over seeing so many faithful
avoiding such churches and they were not in error.
The Church never formally condemned those who
espoused such a stance against impious or compromising churches.
The same applies to churches teaching
material heresy.
The fundamental question
of “Do Novus Ordo churches please God” must be asked. The answer is a resounding no.
Just because a Mass is valid is not a valid
argument to be communing with the “porn shops” of our times with illicit
doctrines.
Clearly, Fellay fell asleep during some of Archbishop Lefebvre’s
teachings because he clearly taught that to re-enter into an unconverted Rome
would be catastrophic to the faith of those attempting to be reintegrated back
into the “mainstream churches”.
Superiors make the inferiors not the other way around. One of Fellay’s
failures is to see that differently.
The false trads are in
abundance these days and you can’t speak much sense to them unfortunately. They see Burke like we see Archbishop
Lefebvre yet Lefebvre said the Burke types were poisonous.
I will let you meditate upon that and process
what I have just said.
"Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,"
[2 Thessalonians 2:3]
[2 Thessalonians 2:3]
Antichrist Maitreya is now lurking in the distance awaiting for the right time to come onto the scene and "save humanity".
It
is material heresy in the very least.
Keep in mind this argument stems from the reality that we are dealing
with material heresy in the very least or in general terms.
Since the Second Vatican Council Catholics
have been pitched an “entirely new man centered religion” which is being given
the label Catholic yet it in fact is representative of the Novus Ordo (aka the
cult of man).
You cannot be in buildings
where these illicit teachings are on the basis of compromise or impiety let
alone heresy!
Now, to add to this, some
prelates are just outright formal heretics and even apostates.
This is where you have to know the
Faith! Don’t think your local novus ordo
bishop is going to give you the Catholic Faith because he is not because he is following Vatican II?
Do not think I must simply follow everyone
else without putting the time in to know the difference between the two
religions which are at war.
It is why
the heretics of our times call us fundamentalist’s, Pharisees and folk who are
too rigid clinging to dogma. God Forbid!
Take a look at the case of Antipope Francis
and how the trend is that he is seen as a formal heretic and it will only get
worse my friends. Francis is not done.
Most
are not aware, some don’t care but still beware! The bottom line is that the material heretic
must still be avoided for the sake of your own faith.
It can become difficult when judging whether
someone is truly ignorant or just being obstinate.
Obstinacy today hides behind the false
obedience routine of the Conciliarists. They will say my bishop said so and my bishop represents the Church and
therefore cannot error!
Hogwash this is
not Catholic teaching.
The esteemed
theologians all have taught that clergymen can wither away into heresy. What are they robots who can only spew out
Tradition?
Again, reference the Arian
crisis. I find that the Conciliarists
are just as ignorant of church history as denominational protestants are these
days.
Furthermore, where does one draw the line with
those following Vatican II? I am sure a
lot of you have family members and friends following Vatican II? Do you cut them off? How much time should I spend with them?
These are all valid questions to ask which is
why I say get with a true traditional catholic priest to discuss. I have been recently advised to just avoid
those willfully ignorant folks in my
own area.
It is true in order to covert there
must be some type of dialogue. You must
still be charitable but beware the poison can be transmitted fast and soon you
might just end like the FSSP who as an organization (in general) embraces
Vatican II/New Mass!
You have to make
objective judgements about those you choose to surround yourself with on a
daily basis and it is no different than when we are talking about what church
to attend.
Again, ponder this. Does the prostitute who doesn’t know any
better morally (due to being deranged/mental illness) still remain a danger to
your soul when in her company? Or is
just those prostitutes who willfully acknowledge they are sexual deviants who
are just the bad guys?
Heresy is
Heresy.
The church does classify
heretics into different categories on the surface level of course but both
remain an immediate danger to your faith and must be avoided. The Conciliarists
are poison in either case and now you get the point.
In addition, compromise can lead to heresy and eventually
apostasy thus prudence dictates we keep our distance.
This is not to have a schismatic disposition
as False traditionalist Bishop Fellay suggests and it actually follows the
principles laid down by his own founder (no longer being followed in the
neo-sspx).
FRIGHTENING BUT TRUE. These are the novus ordo youth being raised by the Vatican II cult of man....
When
you become a Protestant but don’t realize it.
When you change the meaning of traditionally understood terms and give
them whole new meanings you have a recipe for disaster.
The reality is the material heretics of Vatican II dont see the difference.
This is exactly what the enemy did at Vatican
II. Cornelia Ferreira refers to this (change in meaning) as “occultic
illumination” a guideline set down by New Ager Alice Bailey.
The Vatican II Religion is orientated towards man as
opposed to God. Protestants are now seen
in the Body of Christ by the heretical leaders of our hour! Take a look at the most recent news for
further evidence.
Must you Catholic now
become a Vatican II Protestant in order to “keep an appearance” of being
Catholic or do you want to remain loyal to Christ and shout from the rooftops
that this is not Catholic and say we must avoid!
However, those in the second category, i.e. only slightly culpable of supine ignorance, if the degree of ignorance is such that they are not sufficiently conscious of being in the state of supine ignorance, so that they would be morally capable of overcoming the obstacle of ignorance, would still have to be considered invincibly ignorant; at least until they become sufficiently conscious of the defective nature of their own sect, and thus of their moral obligation to seek instruction in the faith of the true Church.
Nevertheless, since the degree of culpability for material heresy is strictly an internal matter, the Church has judged members of non-Catholic denominations in general to be formal heretics, according to their external profession of heresy, as is patent in the earlier quoted passage of St. Pius X: “Gli eretici sono i battezzati che ricusano con pertinacia di credere qualche verità rivelata da Dio e insegnata come di fede dalla Chiesa cattolica, per esempio gli ariani, I nestoriani, e le varie sette dei protestanti.”14
Exceptions are judged on an individual basis, when the bona fides of the individual is manifested.
The reason why I have said this is I find most material heretics to either be in the “figuring it out stage” or of this 3rd category Fr. Kramer mentions. It means a soul can still be lost as a material heretic therefore why are some still flirting with hellfire by trying to commune with these individuals?
There are too many, who, on the surface level, know, “something is wrong” but will not further investigate nor be of “good will” to arrive at the truth of this crisis. These people objectively speaking can lose their souls over the material heresy question itself.
Even Pope St. Pius X said that he feared a good number of Catholics would lose their soul over not knowing the Catholic Faith in general. It is your duty Catholic to know the real pre-Vatican II Catholic faith and not the Vatican II Bogus Ordo religion flavor!
Attending
a Mass with a materially heretical priest is mortal sin. It doesn’t matter if it is a New Mass or the
true Mass. If he follows Vatican II he
is to be avoided.
The purpose of this
article is not review all the heresies of the Conciliar Church yet again but
rather to point out in principle that you cannot be where heresy is materially
or formally.
It simply doesn’t matter. If you know in full knowledge the Novus ordo “faith”
is offensive to God (which it is) then why do you still say I will attend?
I must have Sacraments you argue. Is it God’s will you truly wish to do or is
it self-love that still rules your heart?
God is not bound by His Sacraments you still get grace through the
Church itself and Mary.
As I have been mentioning
you better get used to not having Sacraments because the Church is going “full
blow underground” in the next 5 years or so (give or take) from my perspective.
Do you think the faithful in China go to Mass
weekly or even monthly? Not hardly.
Listen to Fr. Hesse explain how you cannot
satisfy your Sunday Obligation in the Conciliar Church. I hope this brief article helps you to understand
why you cannot be in Vatican II churches on the principle that you cannot
commune with poisonous material heretics.
You can listen to the whole talk by esteemed theologian Fr. Hesse. He states at the 13:25 mark that the Conciliar Church is heretical/schismatic(materially)
Do not forget the Church also teaches that
we must avoid “doubtful Sacraments” and the Novus ordo Sacraments are just
that! And if you run into those arguing there is no heresy in Vatican II nor coming from the Conciliar Popes then I suggest you read some of my other blogs on the neo-catholic "false traditionalist's of our times (like Father Z or Michael Voris). Fr. Malachi Marin called the Conciliar Church a counterfeit church which is an illusion of being Catholic.
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