Vatican II: Reform or Revolution?

Vatican II: Reform or Revolution?

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2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first...

Brethren,

The points below are just a few (3) proofs that the Vatican II NewChurch is not, objectively speaking, the Catholic Church. Nay, it is always prudent to return to the basics of demonstrating the differences between the Catholic Church and the Vatican II NewChurch. It ceases to amaze me how so many conciliarists deny there are new teachings/doctrines yet the Conciliar Pontiffs themselves say there are! But also they openly admit they are trying to reconcile Catholicism with Masonry(the Revolution). Yea, like a husband walking in on his wife cheating on him, the many, still find themselves in such a state of shock, from these quotes, they refuse to believe this reality (the crisis we are in). It is only grace which can open their “eyes” to the devastating times we currently find ourselves in. Therefore, I ask Reform or Revolution? Let us first look at what Pope Benedict has said as a Cardinal concerning the basis for the doctrines of Vatican II NewChurch.

(1)Open Reconciliation of Catholicism with FreeMasonry?

Cardinal Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) wrote this: “If it is desirable to offer a diagnosis of the text [Gaudium et Spes] as a whole, we might say that (in conjunction with the texts on religious liberty and world religions) it is a revision of the Syllabus of Pius IX, a kind of countersyllabus. [...] Let us be content to say that the text serves as a countersyllabus and, as such, represents, on the part of the Church, an attempt at an official reconciliation with the new era inaugurated in 1789.” (Principles of Catholic Theology, 1987, pp. 381-2, Ignatius Press 1987)

 

Now using our Catholic to modernist translator this reads:

" I no longer believe in the infallible teachings (as such) and I will rewrite and progress our doctrine to suit modern man and the world's needs(because modern man does not want the "old order"). I will undo Catholic Truth even though I dont have the authority to do so (because a Pope is not higher than the Faith Itself). I want to reconcile the Conciliar Church with the teaching of the French Revolution (Freemasonry). I am protestantizing the Church".  

Question: Does the Pope have the authority to change (“progress”) the Church’s infallible teachings on the Masonic sect to therein now accept these teachings and pass them off as Catholic? Answer: In the negative! Please remember these revolutionary principles are condemned infallibly by the Ordinary Magesterium and have been maintained by the whole of the Church at all times, therefore, they are not just mere errors as some pseudo-traditionalists claim. We are dealing with a whole new modernist mindset not just a  few errors here or there.

Proof # 1 Vatican II=Revolt

(2)“New/Integral” Humanism and the “cult of man”?

The Catholic Church as a foundation uses Thomism and is the cult of God. Yet the Vatican II NewChurch uses a condemned “new” humanism and proclaims itself to be the cult of man (both coming from Freemasonry). Further, Modernists due to their subjectivism and phenomenology have a hard time understanding “logic” and what we consider “common sense”.  More proof Ye asketh?

Benedict XVI, recalling his experience as a seminarian: ". . . I had difficulties in penetrating the thought of Thomas Aquinas, whose crystal-clear logic seemed to be too closed in on itself, too impersonal and ready-made." Benedict XVI, “Milestones: Memoirs 1927-1977,” 1997

But what of this cult of man?

But we call upon those who term themselves modern humanists, and who have renounced the transcendent value of the highest realities, to give the council credit at least for one quality and to recognize our own new type of humanism: we, too, in fact, we more than any others, honour mankind; We have the cult of man. - Address of Paul VI, Council’s Last General Meeting, December 7, 1965, Italian Translation.

 Question: I thought we could not teach anything “new” as Catholics? Answer: exactly and these modernists are not ashamed of their “newness”. To say there is "continuity" and then say we have new doctrines from a new humanism is as double-minded as it gets so who could accept this laughable notion of "hermeneutics of continuity"? Verily, these “points of doctrine” (Ecclesia Dei- Pope John Paul II) are not elaborations of already understood doctrines of the Church; they are new doctrines altogether.  This is also where I will call to mind Our Lady’s warnings at both LaSalette and Fatima wherein she warns Rome will lose the Faith(Dogma of Faith) and imply it will be maintained elsewhere. So we are seeing this erosion of Catholic doctrine(under the guise of reform/progression) thru “new  humanism” that will end in “secular humanism”, that is, a Church “free of Dogma”(the soon Apostate Church). This ties in with the New Age’s movement toward abolishment of dogmatism. We must remember these Vatican II modernists are forerunner’s to thee Antichrist Himself (Maitreya?) So Let us take a look at a sample Freemasonic page wherein I copied their principles to show how they are largely the same as Vatican II (before they closed down their page). Keep in mind Masonry preaches the gospel of man, that is, that man's rights precede and supersede God and His Catholic Church's rights to rightfully rule the nations.

 Praxis Lodge(Masonic Lodge) promotes the following principles, values, and subject matter for purposes of discussion, research, and education. Notice these same principles in the Conciliar Church:

• Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity
• Absolute freedom of conscience
• Laicite
• Separation of Church and State
• Freedom of thought, expression, and choice
• Freedom of press
• Emancipation of lifestyles
• Pursuit of happiness
• Intellectual, spiritual, and social advancement of humanity
• Philanthropy
• Natural philosophy
• Mutual tolerance and respect for others and oneself(False Ecumenism)
• Rational approach toward advancing human understanding
• enlightenment thinking
• Progressive thought
• Ethics and human rights
• Refusal of racialism and dogma
• Global environment and ecological sustainability
• The Age of Enlightenment / Age of Reason
• Scientific enquiry and progress 
• Coexistence

For even MORE details please see my section on defeatmodernism:

http://defeatmodernism.com/freemasonryhumanism/

Proof # 2: Vatican II= Revolution

(3) The Catholic Church & the New World Order?

Much to the delusional "optimism", of the Vatican II modernists, this new world order which the Conciliar Popes speak of, IS THE SAME new world order, in which the world speaks of. It is the same impotent humanitarianism based upon false ecumenism (Silionism) that Pope St. Pius X warned of. In no way is this world order based upon the Social Kingship of Christ and Catholicism. Further, these modernists use “protection of the environment and the poor” as an excuse to across their Marxist/Masonic agendas.

The Catholic Church teaches about the new world order or the one world republic of tyranny:

“The advent of a Universal Republic, which is longed for by all the worst elements of disorder, and confidently expected by them, is an idea which is ripe for execution. From this Republic, based on the principles of absolute equality of men and community of possessions, would be banished all national distinctions, nor in it would the authority of a father over his children, or of the public power over the citizens, or of God over human society, be any longer acknowledged. If these ideas are put into practice there will inevitably follow a reign of unheard-of terror.”

Pope Benedict XV -Moto Proprio, Bonem Sane, July 25, 1920

 

Verily, the Social Justice program of Vatican II is the SAME as the NEW Age’s false messiah, Maitreya. It is based upon politics/economics first with the basis of this "order" on all things secondary to Holy Religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbhRxmA46I

Even Ghandi, the pagan, unbeliever is seen as the ideal citizen in man’s new world order utopia that Vatican II is preparing the way for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cUkM3-bZzg

Proof #3: Vatican II=Revolution

I could go on all night with proofs my good friends but let us stop there so that we might use our time equally as wise and further pray for conversions. Therefore, how delusional does one have to be not to see a difference between the pre-Conciliar Church also known as the Catholic Church and the post-Conciliar Church also known as the gnostic, protestant, masonic, subjectivist, modernist Vatican II NewChurch cult of man. I have provided merely three basic contradictions and there are hundreds!  Vatican II IS theologically illegitimate, schismatic and illicit and those holding to it, following it and teaching it are NOT, objectively speaking, Catholics,  but are “aliens” to our Holy Faith. Modernists are forerunners to the Antichrist Himself in which Vatican II is paving the way for.

Cardinal Piacenza:
"There cannot be, nor could there be, a pre-Conciliar Church and a post-Conciliar Church!" "Renewal is always necessary for the Church, because the conversion of her members, poor sinners, is always necessary! But there cannot be, nor could there be, a pre-Conciliar Church and a post-Conciliar Church! If this could be so, the second one—ours—would be historically and theologically illegitimate!"

TCK reply: Renewal? Hogwash! Rebellion to Tradition/traditions? Yes! Please pray for this Cardinal as he is a modernist and not a catholic. He fails to understand the Church is both divine and human with prelates, popes and even a council which could run contrary to the Faith.  There most certainly is a preConciliar Church and a post Conciliar Church with a new "everything", therefore, Vatican II is illegitimate and a null and void "council" What has been infallibly condemned the modernists teach, it is a whole new religion of man(man-centered, impotent humanitarianism), which comes from Masonry. Reform cannot come under the guise of Revolution.  Modernists seem to think that if I were to hold a twenty dollar bill in front of them and the Pope says to them it is a ten dollar bill that we must remain obedient to that delusion of the Pope?. The Church does not teach blind or false obedience. Therefore, the same Catholic principles apply to these modernists of Vatican II who do not hold the proper understanding and notion of what Catholicism is.

Also, as a sidenote consider these revolutionary changes as well: concelebration, receiving our Lord under both species, altar girls, allowance of receiving our Lord by hand, changes in position towards the Crusades, limbo, on gun control, the death penalty, etc. The "Conciliar cult of man" is very liberal and "loosey goosey". Please enlighten yourself with further apologetics below on the Vatican II Revolution.

An Open Letter to Confused Catholics

By
His Grace Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre

14. "Vatican II is the French Revolution in the Church."

http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/OpenLetterToConfusedCatholics/Chapter-14.htm

Fr. Hesse (Video) on the Papacy & the Crisis in the Church 

Sister Jeanne of the Nativity (1700's): When the Antichrist draws near a false religion (religion of man) will appear which will deny the unity of God and will oppose the Church.