False Traditionalist Fixation With “Buildings”
By: Eric Gajewski
So you have finally come to understand that Vatican II is not Catholic and that the New Mass is illicit/schismatic and must be avoided. Now what? It is the same as it always has been. It is time to keep the Faith. How many of you have run into these false traditionalist types who keep trying to portray you as having “left the Church” (for not going into Vatican II buildings) when in the very least these people are abominable compromisers? Do not let your heart be troubled is heard from on high. St Athanasius and the Saints of all time are with you and not these false traditionalists. I have come to the conclusion that these types are so “fundamentalist” that “wherever” there is a building marked Catholic (they would say) is a building in good favor with God. They would have you believe that this is a building you “could or ought” be attending. It is of such people you ought avoid as Archbishop Lefebvre truly taught. Sadly the Neo-SSPX and its false traditionalist apologists do not follow the principles of Archbishop Lefebvre. Heck, Bishop Fellay within this past year could not even get basic doctrine down on the Jews. It seems to get worse and worse every day in the so called “traditionalist” movement. However, my good friends, let us take a look again at what St. Athanasius has to say and apply it to our times. We cannot approach doubtful Sacraments (per canon law) and we certainly cannot go into buildings teaching the Vatican II New Religion. Our modernist crisis is worse than the Arian crisis yet why do these false traditionalists persist in their fundamentalist ways?
The "Conciliar Church is heretical and schismatic already (materially)
False Trads Equate Faith with “Buildings” marked as “Catholic”. Rome has lost the Faith cried Archbishop Lefebvre in the late 1980’s yet why do these false traditionalists still see the Faith being there (generally speaking)? They will argue in such simpleton fashion that “because these individuals were baptized Catholic” this is a place one can attend (to commune with). This is beyond ludcaris. Just because the building says it is Catholic on the outside does not mean that the Faith is being kept on the inside. Since Vatican II does not represent our faith and since the false traditionalists including the NeoSSPX now accept it (formally) what is a Catholic to do? We have given up altogether it seems and now have labeled Cardinal Burke as the “measure of orthodoxy”. Have you seen these false traditionalists sites like the official SSPX page, the Remnant, Onepeterfive and the rest? Clearly they do not see with the eyes of an eagle. They are not calling for any kind of conversion of the neo-conservative Cardinals (because they are neo cons themselves) but rather have joined in on the novel pseudo trad ecumenical movement. Catholics cannot do this. What good are the buildings if they do not espouse the Faith? The problem with these groups and their apologists is that they are blind and cannot see. Many of them have eyes pulled by economics. Do not let fear overtake you the Faith resides in your heart and Jesus has chosen it to be a Temple to keep His Faith.
Cannot leave the buildings until heresy is formally declared? This has to be the most idiotic attempt within the false traditionalist movement to keep good catholics trapped in heretical and/or compromising Catholics. When I refuted John Salza (no response on his end) with the precedence established in the Church (over the Arian crisis) we see clearly the “buildings” don’t matter if the Faith is not there. There was no condemnation by the Church for those who wouldn’t partake in the Arian heresy (or compromisers as evidenced down below). They did not stay inside the buildings because the buildings were unfaithful and displeasing to Jesus. As I have mentioned alot of websites and apologists are trying to make a name for themselves and at the same time trying to make money in this crisis. We must be careful of these clever wolves who are not properly applying Catholic teaching but twisting it to their own fundamentalist belief structure. You have not left the Church for what precedes one “having left the Church” would be you first leaving the Faith! Who has left the Faith then (objectively speaking)? Those following the Vatican II Novus Ordo Religion or us? The answer is them of course.
TradCatKnight Radio, " 7 Reasons to Avoid the Pitfall of Pseudo-Traditionalism"
You are not being nice. This is a question of Faith I don’t care what label you give me. Perhaps you are so lukewarm you hide behind this argument. Quit the act of saying this priest or Cardinal is “holy” when they are openly teaching Vatican II and in some cases persistently denouncing the true Resistance. Your niceness has a good possibility of you losing your own soul. Only the proper norm of Faith pleases God and this does not describe Vatican II’s new man centered Faith. Our Lord is not interested in “niceness” He is interested in faithfulness. I would rather have on my side a “pit bull” Catholic not willing to compromise than a sugary coated “Catholic” who consistently does not want to keep this fight on the level of doctrine.
True Resistance types not welcomed on websites like Onepeterfive, the Remnant and others
We wont lose sleep over it:)
Socially acceptable? Social media plays a large role in the continued destruction of the Faith. I have already mentioned several false traditionalist sites and apologists but the list goes on and on. They keep people trapped in this “cyclone of compromise and error” because they believe they have a suitable social media clique. The same lam arguments keep coming in in discussion with them and I can easily point them out as having come from this group. Trust me I have been doing this for many years so I know how they operate and how deceptive they are. Archbishop Lefebvres true position is not welcomed and its replaced by the incompetent apologists who continually try to make it appear they are following Lefebvre or they were a true friend of his. It is complete rubbish. Lefebvre, if still alive, would have booted most of the priesthood out of the Society for the new direction it has taken. Be ye encourage the trend is homes, dens and barns not buildings. So what, if you are “banned” from the Remnant’s or OnePeterfive’s page, for trying to speak some sense into them, because you shouldn’t be on their page in the first place. They are the ones who need to get their act together not us.
TradCatKnight Radio: "Get Out Of The Van While You Can"
"May God console you! ... What saddens you ... is the fact that others have occupied the churches by violence, while during this time you are on the outside. It is a fact that they have the premises – but you have the Apostolic Faith. They can occupy our churches, but they are outside the true Faith. You remain outside the places of worship, but the Faith dwells within you. Let us consider: what is more important, the place or the Faith? The true Faith, obviously. Who has lost and who has won in the struggle – the one who keeps the premises or the one who keeps the Faith? True, the premises are good when the Apostolic Faith is preached there; they are holy if everything takes place there in a holy way ...
"You are the ones who are happy; you who remain within the Church by your Faith, who hold firmly to the foundations of the Faith which has come down to you from Apostolic Tradition. And if an execrable jealousy has tried to shake it on a number of occasions, it has not succeeded. They are the ones who have broken away from it in the present crisis. No one, ever, will prevail against your Faith, beloved Brothers. And we believe that God will give us our churches back some day.
"Thus, the more violently they try to occupy the places of worship, the more they separate themselves from the Church. They claim that they represent the Church; but in reality, they are the ones who are expelling themselves from it and going astray.
Who are the others? Answer those following Vatican II (modernists)
Who is really on the “outside” Answer: Those following Vatican II
When will God give us back our churches? Answer: when people quit compromising that includes these false traditionalists
Does the fact that they are baptized Catholic have anything to do with us trying to be in those churches? Answer: No they continue on teaching the New Religion and supporting its new mass they are objectively speaking displeasing to God
"St. Athanasius & True Resistance"
Other Patristic Testimony To The Abysmal State of the Church at the Time Of The Arian Heresy
A.D. 360: Saint Gregory Nazianzen says about this date: "Surely the pastors have done foolishly; for excepting a very few, who either on account of their insignificance were passed over, or who by reason of their virtue resisted, and who were to be left as a seed and root for the springing up again and revival of Israel (the Church. ed.) by the influence of the Spirit, all temporized, only differing from each other in this, that some succumbed earlier, and others later; some were foremost champions and leaders in the impiety, and others joined the second rank of the battle, being overcome by fear, or by interests, or by flattery, or, what was the most excusable, by their own ignorance.
Cappodocia: Saint Basil says about the year 372: "Religious people keep silence, but every blaspheming tongue is let loose. Sacred things are profaned; those of the laity who are sound in the Faith avoid the places of worship as schools of impiety, and raise their hands in solitude, with groans and tears to the Lord in Heaven." Four years after he writes: "Matters have come to this pass: the people have left their houses of prayer, and assembled in the deserts, – a pitiable sight; women and children, old men, and men otherwise infirm, wretchedly faring in the open air, amid most profuse rains and snowstorms and winds and frosts of winter; and again in summer under a scorching sun. To this they submit, because they will have no part of the wicked Arian leaven." Again: "Only one offense is now vigorously punished an accurate observance of our fathers' traditions. For this cause the pious are driven from their countries and transported into deserts."
In our time when impious novelties, liberalism and modernism are ravishing the Church under the pretext of "aggiornamento" (update!), and infidelity to Catholic Tradition is the order of the day, the above statements cannot help but strike the reader as a parallel of our time. As it was then so it is today.
Today we see the loss of faith among many Catholics occasioned by compromises in the Faith, both great and small, which have touched on the very essence of our Faith. Recent surveys and polls show that only 15% of Catholics believe that they have to accept all of the Church's teachings.
The majority of Church leaders have succumbed to the "spirit of the age", new doctrines and faithful Catholics now suffer at the hands of those who should be their protectors.
The Catholic Church survived the Arian crisis, and so it will survive the present one. For our part, it is our duty to remain faithful to the unchangeable teaching and Sacred Tradition of our Holy Catholic Church, and to not compromise our Faith in any way with the present trend of liberalism and modernism sweeping the Catholic Church worldwide.
If the Arian crisis proves anything, if this historical lesson of the fourth century teaches us anything in the twentieth century it is this: Falsehood cannot become truth no matter how many accept it but rather the truth of doctrinal teaching is to be judged by its conformity to Tradition and not by the number or even the authority of those teaching it. It shows to us that a pope can err as a private teacher and so much more the bishops. Another point the Arian crisis brings out is that Catholics true to the traditional faith had to worship outside the official Churches, their parish churches and even to avoid them as schools of impiety. It proves that Catholics may even have to suffer false denunciation and excommunication for their beliefs as St. Athanasius suffered: today as always we must pray for the Church, the clergy and especially the bishops and our Holy Father the Pope. Only the good Lord knows how long this crisis will last but Our Blessed Mother has given us hope in Her prophecy at Fatima. "In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph and there will be peace in the world".
Vatican 2: The Great Apostasy??