Friday, December 8, 2017

Francis wants to change the “Our Father”

Francis wants to change the Our Father

Ladies and gentlemen, we can all breathe easier now: After 2,000 years of Catholics praying the Lord’s Prayer incorrectly, Mr. Jorge Bergoglio (aka “Pope Francis”) has now come to deliver Christendom from a frightening “mistranslation” of the words revealed directly by the Lord Jesus Christ: The line in the Our Father that says “And lead us not into temptation” is a thorn in the side of the Jesuit apostate, since it insinuates, so he claims, that God would ever tempt His own children to sin, which is not something a father would do.



The English Catholic Herald reports today:
Pope Francis has called for the Italian translation of the Lord’s Prayer to be changed as it implies God leads people into temptation.
The line, which is traditionally translated into English as “And lead us not into temptation”, was recently changed in French to say “do not let us enter into temptation.”
Currently, the Italian translation is rendered in the same way as the English, implying a change in the English version may also be coming.
Asked about the change on French [Italian, actually –N.O.W.] TV, the Pope said the traditional phrasing is “not a good translation”.
“I am the one who falls. It’s not him pushing me into temptation to then see how I have fallen,” he said. “A father doesn’t do that, a father helps you to get up immediately. It’s Satan who leads us into temptation, that’s his department.”
In the Roman Missal, the line, which is also known as the Sixth Petition, is rendered in Latin “et ne nos inducas in tentationem”. However, the word “tentationem” and its Greek equivalent “πειρασμόν” have been translated in various ways over the centuries.
Some say it better translates as “trial” or “testing”, and could refer either to the Last Judgment or to trials described elsewhere in Scripture, such as the ones suffered by Job.
(“Pope Francis calls for Lord’s Prayer translation to be changed”, Catholic Herald, Dec. 8, 2017)
This story had already appeared in the English-speaking press three days ago but did not really make waves until today.
Now, this may be difficult for Francis to accept, but throughout the last two millennia of Church history, a number of minds more brilliant than his had already thought and written about this Sixth Petition of the Our Father. For example, the Roman Catechism (also called the Catechism of the Council of Trent), devotes an entire chapter to it, from which we are reproducing here only the most relevant part:
“Temptation”
To understand the meaning of this Petition, it is necessary to say what temptation signifies here, and also what it is to be led into temptation.
To tempt is to sound a person in order that by eliciting from him what we desire, we may extract the truth. This mode of tempting does not apply to God; for what is there that God does not know? All things are naked and open to his eyes.
Another kind of tempting implies more than this, inasmuch as it may have either a good or a bad purpose. Temptation has a good purpose, when someone’s worth is tried, in order that when it has been tested and proved he may be rewarded and honoured, his example proposed to others for imitation, and all may be incited thereby to the praises of God. This is the only kind of tempting that can be found in God. Of it there is an example in Deuteronomy: The Lord your God tries you, that it may appear whether you love him or not.
In this manner God is also said to tempt His own, when He visits them with want, disease and other sorts of calamities. This He does to try their patience, and to make them an example of Christian virtue. Thus we read that Abraham was tempted to immolate his son, by which fact he became a singular example of obedience and patience to all succeeding times. Thus also is it written of Tobias: Because thou wast acceptable to God, it was necessary that temptation should prove thee.
Men are tempted for a bad purpose, when they are impelled to sin or destruction. To do this is the work of the devil, for he tempts men with a view to deceive and precipitate them into ruin, and he is therefore called in Scripture, the tempter. At one time, stimulating us from within, he employs the agency of the affections and passions of the soul. At another time, assailing us from without, he makes use of external things, as of prosperity, to puff us up with pride, or of adversity, to break our spirits. Sometimes he has for his emissaries and assistants abandoned men, particularly heretics, who, sitting in the chair of pestilence, scatter the deadly seeds of bad doctrines, thus unsettling and precipitating headlong those persons who draw no line of distinction between vice and virtue and are of themselves prone to evil.
“Lead us not into Temptation”
We are said to be led into temptation when we yield to temptations. Now this happens in two ways. First, we are led into temptation when, yielding to suggestion, we rush into that evil to which someone tempts us. No one is thus led into temptation by God; for to no one is God the author of sin, nay, He hates all who work iniquity; and accordingly we also read in St. James: Let no man, when he is tempted, say that he is tempted of God; for God is not a tempter of evils.
Secondly, we are said to be led into temptation by him who, although he himself does not tempt us nor cooperate in tempting us, yet is said to tempt because he does not prevent us from being tempted or from being overcome by temptations when he is able to prevent these things. In this manner God, indeed, suffers the good and the pious to be tempted, but does not leave them unsupported by His grace. Sometimes, however, we fall, being left to ourselves by the just and secret judgment of God, in punishment of our sins.
God is also said to lead us into temptation when we abuse, to our destruction, His blessings, which He has given us as a means of salvation; when, like the prodigal son, we squander our Father’s substance, living riotously and yielding to our evil desires. In such a case we can say what the Apostle has said of the law: The commandment that was ordained to life, the same was found to be unto death to me.
Of this an opportune example is Jerusalem, as we learn from Ezechiel. God had so enriched that city with every sort of embellishment, that He said of it by the mouth of the Prophet: Thou wast perfect through my beauty, which I had put upon thee. Yet Jerusalem, favoured with such an abundance of divine gifts, was so far from showing gratitude to God, from whom she had received and was still receiving so many favours, was so far from making use of those heavenly gifts for the attainment of her own happiness, the end for which she had received them, that having cast away the hope and idea of deriving spiritual profit from them, she, most ungrateful to God her Father, was content to enjoy her present abundance with a luxury and riotousness which Ezechiel describes at considerable length in the same chapter. Wherefore those whom God permits to convert into instruments of vice the abundant opportunities of virtuous deeds which He has afforded them, are equally ungrateful to Him.
But we ought carefully to notice a certain usage of Sacred Scripture, which sometimes denotes the permission of God in words which, if taken literally, would imply a positive act on the part of God. Thus in Exodus we read: I will harden the heart of Pharoah; and in Isaias: Blind the heart of this people; and the Apostle to the Romans writes: God delivered them up to shameful affections, and to a reprobate sense. In these and other similar passages we are to understand, not at all any positive act on the part of God, but His permission only.
Objects of the Sixth Petition
What We Do Not Pray For
These observations having been premised, it will not be difficult to understand the object for which we pray in this Petition.
We do not ask to be totally exempt from temptation, for human life is one continued temptation. This, however, is useful and advantageous to man. Temptation teaches us to know ourselves, that is, our own weakness, and to humble ourselves under the powerful hand of God; and by fighting manfully, we expect to receive a never­fading crown of glory. For he that striveth for the mastery is not crowned, except he strive lawfully. Blessed is the man, says St. James, that endureth temptation; for when he hath been proved, he shall receive the crown of life, which God hath promised to them that love him. If we are sometimes hard pressed by the temptation of the enemy, it will also cheer us to reflect, that we have a high priest to help us, who can have compassion on our infirmities, having been tempted himself in all things.
What We Pray For In This Petition
What, then, do we pray for in this Petition? We pray that the divine assistance may not forsake us, lest having been deceived, or worsted, we should yield to temptation; and that the grace of God may be at hand to succour us when our strength fails, to refresh and invigorate us in our trials.
We should, therefore, implore the divine assistance, in general, against all temptations, and especially when assailed by any particular temptation. This we find to have been the conduct of David, under almost every species of temptation. Against lying, he prays in these words: Take not thou the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; against covetousness: Incline my heart unto thy testimonies, and not to covetousness; and against the vanities of this life and the allurements of concupiscence, he prays thus: Turn away my eyes, that they may not behold vanity.
We pray, therefore, that we yield not to evil desires, and be not wearied in enduring temptation; that we deviate not from the way of the Lord; that in adversity, as in prosperity, we preserve equanimity and fortitude; and that God may never deprive us of His protection. Finally, we pray that God may crush Satan beneath our feet.
(Catechism of the Council of Trent, “The Lord’s Prayer: The Sixth Petition”; online here; hardcopy here)
The Our Father is part of every Holy Mass offered by the Church. In the Latin rite, the text is as follows:
Pater noster, qui es in cælis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in cælo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.
(Source)
The Church’s own official Bible, the Latin Vulgate translation composed by the doctor St. Jerome in the fourth century, renders the applicable Gospel passage as follows:
Sic ergo vos orabitis: Pater noster, qui es in cælis, sanctificetur nomen tuum. Adveniat regnum tuum; fiat voluntas tua, sicut in cælo et in terra. Panem nostrum supersubstantialem da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, sed libera nos a malo. Amen.
(Matthew 6:9-13)
It is absurd to think that all this time the Roman Catholic Church, the Bride of Christ, has been wrong in the rendering of the only prayer which the Son of God Himself dictated directly to His disciples!
No, the translation from the original Aramaic or Hebrew is not wrong. And if it is conceded that the translation is correct, then changing the words nonetheless is an even greater offense because it is nothing short of blasphemy to try to “improve” on the words spoken by Christ! God Himself wants us to pray “And lead us not into temptation”, and so this is what we pray. It’s as simple as that. What is needed here is not a different translation or a change to God’s words, but some simple catechism.
But what of the reason Francis has given for wanting to change the
words translation? Quite simply, the pious-sounding blather from Francis is but a pretext for introducing even more change into his church. It is change for the sake of change, so that his followers get used to the idea that nothing is holy, nothing is untouchable, nothing is incapable of being changed — the “god of surprises” can strike at any moment, and woe to you if you’re not prepared to accept its latest novelty!
Changing the Our Father in this manner does three things: It introduces volatility into one of the most sacred prayers of Christendom; it makes the Church look foolish because it makes it appear as though for all these centuries, the Church was too stupid to realize that God doesn’t lead us into sin; and it makes Francis look like a hero, as the “Superpope” who came to straighten it all out for us. No doubt, all three of these effects are fully intended by Bergoglio.
On Sep. 25, 1888, Pope Leo XIII in an Apostolic Letter published a beautiful prayer to St. Michael the Archangel against Satan and the apostate angels. Unlike the version most people know today as the St. Michael’s Prayer, the one Pope Leo released at the time is much longer. We are reproducing it below. Please pay special attention to the underlined part:
O Glorious Archangel St. Michael, Prince of the heavenly host, be our defense in the terrible warfare which we carry on against principalities and powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, and spirits of evil.
Come to the aid of man, whom God created immortal, made in His own image and likeness, and redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil. Fight this day the battle of the Lord, together with the holy angels, as already thou hast fought the leader of the proud angels, Lucifer, and his apostate host, who were powerless to resist Thee, nor was there place for them any longer in heaven. That cruel, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil or Satan, who seduces the whole world, was cast into the abyss with his angels.
Behold, this primeval enemy and slayer of men has taken courage. Transformed into an angel of light, he wanders about with all the multitude of wicked spirits, invading the earth in order to blot out the name of God and of His Christ, to seize upon, slay and cast into eternal perdition souls destined for the crown of eternal glory. This wicked dragon pours out, as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on men; his depraved mind, corrupt heart, his spirit of lying, impiety, blasphemy, his pestilential breath of impurity and of every vice and iniquity. These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the Spouse of the Immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.
Arise then, O invincible Prince, bring help against the attacks of the lost spirits to the people of God, and give them the victory. They venerate Thee as their protector and patron; in Thee Holy Church glories as her defense against the malicious power of hell; to Thee has God entrusted the souls of men to be established in heavenly beatitude. Oh, pray to the God of peace that He may put Satan under our feet, so far conquered that he may no longer be able to hold men in captivity and harm the Church. Offer our prayers in the sight of the Most High, so that they may quickly conciliate the mercies of the Lord; and beating down the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, do Thou again make him captive in the abyss, that he may no longer seduce the nations. Amen.
V. Behold the Cross of the Lord; be scattered, hostile powers.
R. The Lion of the tribe of Judah has conquered, the root of David.
V. Let Thy mercies be upon us, O Lord.
R. As we have hoped in Thee.
V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto Thee.
Let us pray.
O God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, we call upon Thy holy name, and we humbly implore Thy clemency, that by the intercession of Mary, ever Virgin Immaculate and our Mother, and of the glorious Archangel St. Michael, Thou wouldst deign to help us against Satan and all other unclean spirits, who wander about the world for the injury of the human race and the ruin of souls. Amen.
(Source: Ambrose St. John, The Raccolta or Collection of Indulgenced Prayers and Good Works [1910], n. 292; underlining added.)
There is nothing sacred that Modernists do not seek to lay their impious hands on so they can defile it in some way.
It was a given, though, that the people who wrecked the Holy Mass would eventually also go for the Our Father. By the way, it has been said that “Pope” Paul VI wanted to change the Hail Mary, too, by shortening it to only the “biblical” portion — but feared that there would be too much of a blacklash.
Francis made his comments about the sixth petition of the Lord’s Prayer in the Nov. 29 edition of the Italian program Padre Nostro — the same program on which the week before he had claimed that it is possible that Judas Iscariot might not be in hell, directly contradicting, once again, the holy words of Jesus Christ. A clear pattern is emerging. The full video can be watched here:


In what can only be considered unfortunate timing for him, the very same day this episode was aired, Bishop Rudolf Voderholzer of Regensburg — the one who once rejoiced that “not even Martin Luther could have imagined a better Pope than Benedict XVI” — publicly voiced his opposition to the move of the French bishops to change “lead us not into temptation” into “do not let us fall into temptation” in their vernacular translations. According to a Dec. 1 report by the German Die Tagespost, Voderholzer warned of distorting the words of Christ. He noted, quite correctly, that “lead us not into temptation” is exactly the phrase our Lord used, as reported by the Evangelists Ss. Matthew and Luke, and the words of Jesus cannot be revised.
Let there be no mistake about it: Although he is hiding behind the pretext of a better translation, the fact is that Francis seeks to change the words of Christ Himself. Our Lord truly said, “Lead us not into temptation.” But perhaps Mr. Bergoglio will soon echo the claim recently made by the Jesuit Superior General Fr. Arturo Sosa, namely, that we don’t know what Christ really said since there was no tape recorder around.
By the way, as we were composing this article, some breaking news arrived from the Vatican’s media damage control department: Greg Burke, the official press secretary for the Unholy See, told the German General-Anzeiger that Francis is not saying that a change ought to be made to the Our Father (so far), he’s merely issuing an “invitation to reflect”. In an article entitled “Pope expresses Doubts concerning Our Father“, journalist Julius Müller-Meiningen quotes Francis’ post-disaster clean-up guy:
“So far, we are [only] talking about a conversation between the Pope and a journalist”, according to an official reaction. Vatican spokesman Greg Burke told this paper that the Pope’s criticism regarding the translation [of the sixth petition of the Lord’s Prayer] is not a call for a modification but an “invitation to reflect”.
(Julius Müller-Meiningen, “Papst äußert Zweifel am Vaterunser”, General-Anzeiger, Dec. 8, 2017)
Yeah, right. But whether it be an exhortation to make a change or a mere “invitation” to do some thinking about it, it won’t really matter. Remember that with Francis’ recent move to decentralize liturgical translations and giving regional bishops’ conferences the last word on how to translate liturgical texts, chaos is guaranteed; although it is to be expected that most Novus Ordo bishops will simply follow the “papal invitation” and change the words of God Himself. Why go by the words of Christ when you have the words of Bergoglio?
Let us remember that Pope St. Peter wrote that “the unlearned and unstable” distort Sacred Scripture “to their own destruction” (see 2 Pet 3:16); and Christ Himself warned: “He that despiseth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him; the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day” (Jn 12:48). But this won’t impress Francis — after all, it could just be a mistranslation; and if not, well, there’s always that tape recorder issue….
Will the Francis version of the Lord’s Prayer soon be known as the “New Our Father”? Maybe so. But, considering that Francis is the one cleverly leading people into temptation here, perhaps a more fitting title would be the “Our Francis”.



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50 comments:

  1. A faithful Catholic needs the Catechism of The Council of Trent. Hopefully, Tan Books still prints this, well I'm just saying if a person doesn't have this Catechism, otherwise, an on line search will help locating it and where its sold.

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    1. I go with the Catechism of the Council of Trent or the Roman Catechism. But I also have a copy of the one by St. Pius X :)

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  2. But he has no authority to change something already instituted by Our Lord.

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  3. The seven requests for action
    that Jesus spoke of

    Our Father,
    who art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name;
    1 thy kingdom come;
    2 thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
    3 Give us this day our daily bread;
    4 and forgive us our trespasses
    5 as we forgive those who trespass against us;
    6 and lead us not into temptation,
    7 but deliver us from evil.

    Amen

    In revelations God leads the non believers into sexual immorality
    Being gay is not a sin
    It is the judgement
    divine punishment
    Because they did not believe in him with all their
    hearts minds and souls


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    1. And lead us not into temptation. Is saying give us what we need to overcome our trials which is what TEMPTATION is, it is a trial that can be a sin.

      Because of our sinful nature we are weak. The desert fathers tells us god sends us trials to purge us of sin to show us our true nature in how weak we are and in how much we need his Love and mercy in our life. He teaches us to rely on him and not on our own strength. So he sends us trials, temptation, pain, suffering to draw us closer to him.

      There are many saints who tell us that god will keep you in sin to teach you a principal or principles. Such as humility. But not just humility but deep humility. This is what he aims for that our principles each of them are deep with a certain degree of magnitude and depth. It was with deep humility that Christ went to the cross. Everything and every principle was deep. Every time you sin and repeat that sin it tells you the magnitude of his love for you and his mercy. You may say how can he forgive of this sin when by my weakness I keep doing it every week. But it is his way of showing you how much he loves you by forgiving you even for the same sin every week. But also to show you how week you are.
      and lead us not into temptation. The cross is the way to his heart.And it is only through him that we do not fall into temptation yet temptation has its place in showing us how weak we are. In showing us how much he love us. And helping to purge us from sin.

      There is nothing wrong with - and lead us not into temptation because by not giving us the strength to overcome temptation we will have to find its holy purpose and know its gods will.

      and lead us not into temptation. Is a round about way of saying give me strength but if I fall teach me how not to.


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    2. God is sometimes silent in order to test the strength of a man.

      And lead us not into temptation. The next line is " But deliver us from evil. In other words Give us strength to overcome evil, temptation, trials yet there is a process of experience and skill in battle. A process of purification by way of temperance and prudence two of the 7 heavenly virtues. God want deep virtue not superficial virtue. Its trial by fire. Our Lord thought little of Love without suffering.As Jesus said in the garden " Father delivered me if possible from this hour yet your will be done."
      No one has the right to change the lords prayer.

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  4. Father, Son and Holy Ghost, protect us from the Modernist evil ones who have defiled the sacred traditions of the Church, and defiled the words of Christ himself, to the ruin of so many souls. Prayers for wisdom and understanding for all Catholics!

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  5. May God rebuke you, jorge bergoglio!
    Jason F

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  6. I have been appalled at some of what Francis has tried to pass off as Church Doctrine; most especially of his attempts to cloak the Global Warming Fiction with the authority of the Magisterium of the Church. I am deeply troubled by his refusal to respond to either the Dubia, or to the Filial Correction. At the moment, all that can be done is to pray for Francis, that he might listen to the Holy Spirit, turn his back on heretical doctrine, and return to the steadfast and bold proclamation of the authentic teachings of the Church.
    Edward S

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    1. Fr. Luigi Villa, editor of Chiesa Viva at the request of padre pio was to expose freemansons in the church. Pope Francis a Grand master 33 degree freemanson. You should read Chiesa viva on Francis and the other popes and cardinals it is a great source of info. God Bless Father Villa.

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  7. Francis is not Pope as Eric stated. He is the Destroyer. He reeks of Evil. His words and deeds absolutely show whom he serves. It is not Christ our Lord. Pray for his soul, just because he is Evil ,does not mean that we turn our hearts to stone.
    Francis is not a Holy man. He pushes the lie that is Global warming,the big bang,evolution, modernism, Socialism. Please pray for his soul.
    Ken F

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  8. Didn’t Pope John Paul 2 change the Rosary?
    Adrian

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    1. He added the Luminous mysteries but in adding that it messes up the flow of the Rosary. We should continue to say it the traditional way. If Our Lady wanted it to be changed she would have said so.

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  9. Our Francis ������ that did make me laugh but he's not the Pope so I don't care what he says been honest scriptures will never change the world will pass away but God's word will last eternity.
    Andy H

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  10. Please can someone get that Apostate out of Rome?

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  11. What an ego he has. He thinks that he knows better than 2000 years of bible translation, by catholic scholars and saints. Unbelievable!
    Paulette B

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  12. Can you see the slippery slope? If what we have in our bible (Douey Rheims) is incorrect........... WHOA! What that does to the entirety of Christianity!
    Laura S

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  13. Nope! Will not do this!!! Susan

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  14. As with Israelites of old, so many Catholics have turned away from God. Francis is just a player in the Prophecy. Our Holy Mother tried warn us. It was blocked by the Evil that is present in the Vatican. "Evil shall reach the highest stations within my Son's Church". And "When my Son's Church aligns itself with the World the end times are at hand ". Take heed.
    Ken F

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  15. The Our Father comes from the mouth of our Lord Jesus Christ himself!! What is the matter with people?! This ‘pope’ is shredding to pieces the traditions and dogmas of the holy Catholic Church and you’re saying ‘’it can be helpful’’?! Come on WAKE UP!
    Chris W

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  16. It's all happening according to God's plan. So happy people are awake. May He find us all worthy to escape all that is to come.
    Michelle J

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  17. I don't care what Francis says. No one is going to change the Our Father that came from Jesus.
    Anna

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  18. This is incredible that he believes that he knows better what are Lord gave us to pray ! Just more proof that he is misguided and needs our prayers more than ever ! Only positive I can hope for is that anyone who follows him and the norvus ordo wake up and come back to our traditional Mass. Maybe this will be the last straw for some people.

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  19. I totally disagree to Pope Francis! This is terrible and yet many of his followers believe in whatever he says is right and defend it. Eric the Filipino prophecy is right!I had waited for the AC no doubt. We have that book...i wish you could read it but no translation for it. It is written in deep tagalog words. The prophecy says there in the book that AC willbe beheaded but after his death many will still believe him. (Isis warns that this Christmas they will attack Vatican.)Then after that event Enoch and Elijah will.come and they will announce the coming of the Lord. The time interval is just 40 days to prepare for Gods coming. Enoch and Elijah will be killed also...i donot know if they willbe the martyrs spoken by St.Loiuse de Montfort. Then the Lord will punish those who has no love for the truth (those who do not defend the words of God instead they follow the AC) The Blessed Mother according to the book will be silent for those who do not believe in her warning and message. There are Catholics who love the Blessed Mother but becasuse of the FP they do not believe in her prophecies. Prophecies are fit for those who believe that Pope Francis is a heretic pope. And those followers of FP dont even want to read nor post the book of the revelation and prophecies. Eric,when Pope Francis was elected Pope when he did not wear that red cape...i was sure he was the one. I was not deceive by him but many was deceived by him until now.St. Paul tells us Let no one decives you. St. Francis had his very clear prophecies and Blesed Catherine Emmerich and even Pope Leo XIII even the Alta vendeta they had foretold about it.

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