(VIDEO) Jesuit monk from Egypt: “The numbers do not lie; Europe will be Islamized”
Many thanks to CrossWare for putting the interview back into English, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:
Transcript:
| 00:04 | Welcome. Today we are talking with the Jesuit monk Henri Boulad, | |
| 00:08 | on the occasion of his gaining Hungarian citizenship. | |
| 00:12 | We are very happy to welcome you to the ranks of Hungarian citizens. | |
| 00:16 | I am very happy too. You were born in Alexandria, Egypt; | |
| 00:20 | your father was Syrian and your mother Italian. | |
| 00:24 | No, my grandmother was Italian. Oh, yes, sorry; your grandmother. | |
| 00:28 | You were living in Egypt — why did you requested the Hungarian citizenship? | |
| 00:32 | Why did you think this important? This was a lucky chance. | |
| 00:36 | The deputy of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, Zsolt Semjén, | |
| 00:40 | visited Alexandria and he asked me the question: how could he help? | |
| 00:44 | I suggested: “With Hungarian citizenship.” He said, | |
| 00:48 | “It’s taken care of.” My underlying idea behind this was: this is the way | |
| 00:52 | that I can flow into the European politics in the future. | |
| 00:56 | You could have applied to the French for citizenship, why the Hungarians? | |
| 01:00 | The French refused me twice, | |
| 01:04 | at the highest level. | |
| 01:08 | My papers were perfectly prepared, and the French Immigration Office said | |
| 01:12 | the papers were very impressive and they were fairly certain I would be granted citizenship, | |
| 01:16 | but despite all that it did not came through in the highest level. | |
| 01:20 | Then I tried a second time with the Élysée Palace, but I was refused again. | |
| 01:24 | At that moment I understood, either the fault is with me or with them. | |
| 01:28 | I accepted that France did not want me, with my cultural background. | |
| 01:32 | But Hungary wants me, and I believe in Mr Orbán’s | |
| 01:36 | politics. And Europe shatter slowly, if it doesn’t rethink itself. | |
| 01:40 | If it does not restart its thinking and restore itself. | |
| 01:44 | They must move again, because otherwise there will be a catastrophe in the end. | |
| 01:48 | And the cause of that is liberalism, left-wing liberalism. | |
| 01:52 | ||
| 01:56 | Earlier you criticized the modern form of cosmopolitanism, | |
| 02:00 | and compared it with the world citizenship of Jesus. | |
| 02:04 | What do you think, are modern cosmopolitans walking the path of Jesus, | |
| 02:08 | or just the opposite? | |
| 02:12 | Because the cosmopolitanism of Jesus was personal one, | |
| 02:16 | his goal was to bring the people closer and unify them | |
| 02:20 | in their difference. Do they contradict each other, | |
| 02:24 | cosmopolitanism and the path of Jesus? | |
| 02:28 | Jesus wants us to become one, brothers and sisters | |
| 02:32 | in one body, as we say in the mystical body of Jesus. I state | |
| 02:36 | this is globalism, but globalism in a spiritual sense. | |
| 02:40 | This is a personal globalism, which respects all individuals, | |
| 02:44 | all communities, all cultures, all associations and above all | |
| 02:48 | human freedom. This is the word of the gospel. | |
| 02:52 | But the present globalism tries to manipulate. First and foremost, | |
| 02:56 | European countries in the interests of international capital groups. | |
| 03:00 | I only mentioned them as “secret heads”, | |
| 03:04 | those are pulling the strings in politics. | |
| 03:08 | Very politely, but you criticized the Church, | |
| 03:12 | because they do not resist political correctness, | |
| 03:16 | the expected PC speech. Did you have in mind, | |
| 03:20 | did you get any direction from the church about the | |
| 03:24 | inflow of Muslim migrants | |
| 03:28 | moving into Europe? One of the verses of | |
| 03:32 | Psalm 85 is about the meeting of | |
| 03:36 | love and truth | |
| 03:40 | how love and truth are kissing each other. | |
| 03:44 | If you have truth without love, it does not work, | |
| 03:48 | because it is painful. Love without truth is not realistic, because that is just | |
| 03:52 | wishful thinking. So the truth and love | |
| 03:56 | must come together. Now the church | |
| 04:00 | and those who live by those psalms are sacrificing faith. | |
| 04:04 | We try to create a dialogue, | |
| 04:08 | we try to please others, but this is all | |
| 04:12 | the sale of faith and hiding of faith for truth. | |
| 04:16 | So do you think political | |
| 04:20 | correctness is false, and it is wrong? —Of course. | |
| 04:24 | Political correctness is false, | |
| 04:28 | the first person who fought against it was Jesus, | |
| 04:32 | but the Church is politically correct, and with that it lost its goals. | |
| 04:36 | It no longer proclaims the truth, not only the | |
| 04:40 | truth of the psalms, but the TRUTH itself. The dialog between religions | |
| 04:44 | that started fifteen years ago is a total slip-up, | |
| 04:48 | a wrong path, but the Church does not want to recognize this, | |
| 04:52 | it is unconscious, they flatter each other, say beautiful words to each other, | |
| 04:56 | they drink coffee together… I have no problem with having coffee with others, | |
| 05:00 | but we must say the words as they are; we do not have to please others. | |
| 05:04 | On the other hand, the dialog between religions is not improving. | |
| 05:08 | There is no evolution in it, because we are afraid to call the really hard | |
| 05:12 | things by their names. We must face reality. | |
| 05:16 | …One of the burning questions | |
| 05:20 | is the present situation of European Christianity. | |
| 05:24 | The churches are full of old people. | |
| 05:28 | So what do you think, | |
| 05:32 | is it a realistic danger, that Christianity will disappear from Europe? | |
| 05:36 | In thirty years Europe will be Muslim. | |
| 05:40 | Thirty years, that is the maximum. It is simple mathematics. | |
| 05:44 | But this is only mathematics. Yes, | |
| 05:48 | plus immigration, open and unlimited | |
| 05:52 | immigration, which is also supported by the Pope. | |
| 05:56 | There is an invasion occurring in Europe; the continent is under attack. | |
| 06:00 | Migration is getting stronger and increasing; the European fertility is | |
| 06:04 | only one third of that of the migrants. A European couple has one or two children, while | |
| 06:08 | they have six or ten or more. | |
| 06:12 | The numbers do not lie; Europe will be Islamized. | |
| 06:16 | And there is the question of conversion, too. | |
| 06:20 | More and more European converts to Islam, because they do not get answers and | |
| 06:24 | they do not find a faith in the Church. And then Christianity will collapse in Europe. | |
| 06:28 | The ones to blame for this will be the Europeans. They do | |
| 06:32 | everything, but really, everything | |
| 06:36 | to replace Christianity with Islam. You say that | |
| 06:40 | Christianity is too abstract? | |
| 06:44 | Does not give answers to burning questions such as, | |
| 06:48 | for example: abortion, celibacy, | |
| 06:52 | or divorce, remarriage and gender problems? | |
| 06:56 | Do you think Christianity should be sharper? | |
| 07:00 | You mention moral and ethical | |
| 07:04 | questions. These questions must be asked, | |
| 07:08 | but in an alternate way from the usual. | |
| 07:12 | Not about the voice of acceptance; for openers, we have to talk about abortion; | |
| 07:16 | the language of faith is incomprehensible for the Christians of today. | |
| 07:20 | We have to talk about what is faith, the holy Trinity, what is God, | |
| 07:24 | what is salvation, resurrection. | |
| 07:28 | We talk about these with such words that nobody can understand anymore. | |
| 07:32 | The purpose of religious education and Sunday sermons is | |
| 07:36 | to bring the meaning of faith into everyday life. But today’s faith | |
| 07:40 | does not bring any meaning into people’s lives. They are bored with the teachings, | |
| 07:44 | the words of the priests. And the Church does not want to think about | |
| 07:48 | its own thinking. They do not want to re-think it. | |
| 07:52 | While we are on this topic, how do you think we can | |
| 07:56 | make the Church more attractive to people? | |
| 08:00 | Jesus is not about attractiveness; this is not about attractiveness | |
| 08:04 | He himself was not attractive. Attractiveness means we fall into the media and commercial trap. | |
| 08:08 | But we are now in the media and we talking on a television channel. | |
| 08:12 | So is it important? —I do not try to please people; | |
| 08:16 | I hate pleasing people. | |
| 08:20 | I just tell the truth, and if that pleases someone, | |
| 08:24 | it’s OK, it is all right by me, but I will not | |
| 08:28 | try to please you or anybody else. | |
| 08:32 | But the issue is that the Church is incapable of rethinking the way it should pass the message. | |
| 08:36 | In 2007 I drew up these issues and problems, too, | |
| 08:40 | in a letter I sent to Pope Benedict; the letter can be found in the Internet. | |
| 08:44 | In that letter, I wrote that the Church must be reformed on three different sides. | |
| 08:48 | In theological content, the work of the clergy and priests, and in spiritual meaning. | |
| 08:52 | The theological reform must be about | |
| 08:56 | how to put faith into words and how to hand it over. | |
| 09:00 | Today that is simply horrid. An example here is the story of Creation. | |
| 09:04 | There is Evolution and not Creation; God has no place in phylogenesis. | |
| 09:08 | About the incarnation, we say Jesus came from Heaven. | |
| 09:12 | Who would understand that? What is incarnation or Heaven? | |
| 09:16 | Nobody could understand how it happened, why salvation | |
| 09:20 | happened. We say he gave his blood for us. Who would understand that? | |
| 09:24 | Or what is Original Sin? Nobody believes in Original Sin. | |
| 09:28 | The Church is incapable of phrasing the meaning of Original Sin. | |
| 09:32 | Two days ago I participated in a discussion, which was about | |
| 09:36 | the new meaning of salvation. How it will be | |
| 09:40 | meaningful to people. But do you see | |
| 09:44 | a godly sign, something that will save the Europeans? | |
| 09:48 | Do you see the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit is | |
| 09:52 | blowing out of the Church now. | |
| 09:56 | I am sorry that I have to say this, but the Holy Spirit is leaving the Church. | |
| 10:00 | In the past 400-500 years the voices they called heretic prepared the path | |
| 10:04 | to the Second Vatican Synod, the results of which are indisputable. | |
| 10:08 | It opened the windows and the voices escaped from the Church, | |
| 10:12 | So the Second Vatican Synod was a blessing, | |
| 10:16 | but it should have happened 200-300 years ago. | |
| 10:20 | Well, it seems like it came too late; let me give an example: | |
| 10:24 | this is like swallowing, you can’t stuff a week’s worth of food into yourself in twenty minutes, | |
| 10:28 | because we would die. The Synod was not bad, just the opposite, | |
| 10:32 | but came too late and too sudden too. Suddenly | |
| 10:36 | it was there and it confused people and disturbed them. | |
| 10:40 | Ok, let’s talk a little bit about | |
| 10:44 | Islam and migration. Previously you warned | |
| 10:48 | the Europeans not to believe Western professors; | |
| 10:52 | the true nature of Islam is different, and they should ask Middle Eastern Christians about it. | |
| 10:56 | With this you tried to say, that Islam is worse than what we think about it, | |
| 11:00 | in the Middle-East? You have only | |
| 11:04 | seen the beautiful side of Islam. | |
| 11:08 | But there are two Islams, the Medinan and Meccan. | |
| 11:12 | From the very beginning Islam chose the | |
| 11:16 | values of the Medinan side. | |
| 11:20 | Western thinkers, experts, are trying to convince themselves that up through | |
| 11:24 | today the Meccan values are still the ones that prevail. The openness, tolerance, | |
| 11:28 | Freedom. But my opinion is that this is just wishful thinking, | |
| 11:32 | because the Muslims refuse these values, | |
| 11:36 | and every reformer who tried to reverse this process failed. | |
| 11:40 | They were swept away when they wanted to return to the roots of Islam. | |
| 11:44 | Tolerance, love and peace: these were refused | |
| 11:48 | by the highest Islamic religious authorities, | |
| 11:52 | and they train the religious teachers, imams, and send them by the thousands all over the world, | |
| 11:56 | and those are the ones who refuse the Meccan path. | |
| 12:00 | Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, the President of Egypt, asked them numerous times | |
| 12:04 | to change their teachings, but they refused him, because this is the tradition. | |
| 12:08 | The nature of Islam is always dualistic. Always radical, | |
| 12:12 | and always political. Christianity is also radical, but not political. | |
| 12:16 | So when we see that Islam is radical and political, | |
| 12:20 | then it showed us its real colors. | |
| 12:24 | Western researchers of Islam do not want to understand this, | |
| 12:28 | but the Eastern Christians gave their blood. | |
| 12:32 | You mentioned blood. 90,000 Christians | |
| 12:36 | were murdered — every six minutes — | |
| 12:40 | most of them by fundamentalist Muslims, why they doing this? | |
| 12:44 | Why are they killing Christians? Does that divide or unite the Muslims? | |
| 12:48 | School textbooks in Egypt describe | |
| 12:52 | how to kill Christians, | |
| 12:56 | how to massacre them — do not be surprised — that is in their textbooks. | |
| 13:00 | Muslims nowadays — Hamed Abdel-Samad published a book in Germany — | |
| 13:04 | which examines the connection of fascism to Islamism. | |
| 13:08 | It is not I who gives warnings, but those Muslims | |
| 13:12 | who lost their destiny and become Christians or agnostics [apostates]. | |
| 13:16 | They are the ones shouting: “Do not live in a dream world.” | |
| 13:20 | This is the true nature of Islam. This is not said by me, Boulad. | |
| 13:24 | I can produce hundreds of news sources like this from ex-Muslims. | |
| 13:28 | They themselves warn us about Islam, but the West | |
| 13:32 | do not want to understand, they are just repeating that they are on the right path. | |
| 13:36 | That is why they do not believe me. I do not mind, but Europe is about to | |
| 13:40 | fall apart, Europe is finished, because | |
| 13:44 | they are so convinced about liberalism, socialism. Liberal discourse | |
| 13:48 | became mainstream in their thinking, but this is suicide. | |
| 13:52 | In political and sociological terms they are committing suicide, | |
| 13:56 | and they do not want to hear the warnings. | |
| 14:00 | They do not want to be scared. This is dramatic. | |
| 14:04 | At least I would like to ask you, please | |
| 14:08 | send a message to Hungarians, how should we behave | |
| 14:12 | about Muslims, what we should we do | |
| 14:16 | about immigration? Open-door immigration | |
| 14:20 | is wrong, because Sweden has done it and now | |
| 14:24 | they are dying, Sweden is finished. | |
| 14:28 | Sweden is dying and | |
| 14:32 | already dead. Germany is the same; | |
| 14:36 | France is in halfway. So | |
| 14:40 | I think Hungary should follow Viktor Orbán’s politics. | |
| 14:44 | One might imagine that a couple of thousand Muslims could settle here, but only | |
| 14:48 | if they are want to and are capable of integrating. If not, get out. | |
| 14:52 | The example of Australia is the correct one. | |
| 14:56 | They welcome everyone, but if you do not integrate, learn the language, | |
| 15:00 | culture, you do not want to live with us, | |
| 15:04 | just like the Portuguese, Spanish and Polish who can fit in, in a single generation, | |
| 15:08 | and integrate perfectly, then they must go. Hungary is | |
| 15:12 | a small country, but forming alliances with other countries must begin | |
| 15:16 | to form a new Europe, to save their identity | |
| 15:20 | and traditions. Europe will die out, but it is your task to save | |
| 15:24 | their souls, because they sink like a boat with only twenty seats; | |
| 15:28 | when a hundred want to get in, | |
| 15:32 | all will die. I think the quotas are only the expression of | |
| 15:36 | leftist liberal ideology. Political correctness stops | |
| 15:40 | listening to anybody else who might have a different opinion. | |
| 15:44 | But this is not right. You have the right — only the people have rights — | |
| 15:48 | so Europe would be able to save itself, | |
| 15:52 | but we are running out of time; it is almost too late already. | |
| 15:56 | Wake up, open your eyes. Wake up. | |
| 16:00 | Wake up. Open your eyes. See what is happening. |